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I have news for you. The BBC isn't a single liberal entity. Some parts are liberal for sure, but mostly it just "looks" liberal some of the time, especially the news and politics teams who essentially do whatever the current UK government wants, under threat of defunding.
That's the sign right there, though, buddy. The UK government is liberal. Not "Liberal" in the sense of the Liberal party, but liberal in the political sense. Even when the Torries are in power.
the 2 big parties have been centrist for decades. Centrist politics has shifted more into conservatism in recent years. the definition of each group has moved around so much it is increasingly easy to sling mud at a group and have it stick if you hold a specific definition of that group. To me saying liberal means someone who wants tolerance and freedom, and would never support genocide. Liberals in the US are not the same as liberals elsewhere. Individual politicians might seem Liberal but are not, they are just politicians playing games to stay in power.
Yes, exactly. These two statements are complimentary. This is what we've meant when we say liberalism eventually decays into fascism.
So you agree that OP's picture is not accurate. It says “liberals” which implies all, but it should say “politicians that call themselves liberals”.
When liberals tell you who they are, believe them.
When trolls demonstrate they only see in black and white, believe them.
The irony of assuming everyone who disagrees with you is a troll and then accusing them of seeing in "black and white" is amusing.
Nope. The liberals who voted in the liberal politicians are the ones who support this slide. You are personally responsible for that. You keep believing the newest liberal politicians, and the cycle keeps repeating itself.