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[–] lets_talk_basketball@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I'll be honest tho, idk how him and Brunson works as a backcourt.

[–] Prestigious_Cattle72@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Wonder how Mitchell would fit next to Bridges instead

[–] SneakyGreninja@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

i think instead he should go to minnesota. think about it he has an elite rim defender in rudy gobert, great for the pnr and all

[–] Artsky32@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve always wanted to see Mitchell and ben Simmons on the same team, they seem like the perfect compliments to each other .

[–] lets_talk_basketball@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Now that is exciting.. he has enough defenders on the perimeter to help him out in BK.

[–] groceriesN1trip@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Fringe playoff team, 1st rd exit

[–] thereticent@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He could bring Ben back to life

[–] n_jacat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I am also wondering this. We have room for an upgrade at guard but it rides on how ready Cam Thomas is to carry a major offensive role.

[–] shoutsoutstomywrist@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If Donovan was even 25% interested in Brooklyn then we gotta go all in, giving away Cam is the barest minimum

[–] boogswald@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To put it in perspective as a cleveland fan, I don’t care about Cam Thomas at all. You put him in a trade and I skip right past that name in a Donovan Mitchell trade. He’s the filler (no offense, just trying to put this in a genuine perspective)

[–] shoutsoutstomywrist@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No offense taken it’s makes sense to me, nothing we have is equal to Donovan (that we’d be willing to trade) so I think it’s best to just throw y’all any and everything if it means we can add Spida to our core

His offense alone alleviates our biggest problem

[–] ClutchGamingGuy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He is not lmao

[–] PrimeShaq@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Bro it's Donovan Mitchell.

[–] BruceBrownMVP@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Surely the only way we pick someone like him up is through FA no?

The amount of important players we would have to give up to make the Cavs interested would make Don not interested.

It's not like we have our own picks to throw at the problem to make up for a lopsided trade.

[–] ClutchGamingGuy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hopefully we'll never have to find out

[–] Joetheshow1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If Donovan came to NY I'd honestly want RJ to move to the 6th man and have Hart start at the 3 since he's a better defender and could help out Brunson and Donovan better, Grimes is too small to start at the 3 full time imo

[–] shockwave8428@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Starting 3 people under 6’4 always works, we never had issues with it or anything

[–] NefariousNeezy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Simple - 2 balls at the same time

[–] pickledelbow@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Rumor is the sixers are trying to get him as well and I feel the same way about a Mitchell/Maxey backcourt. Defense would be so bad

[–] boogswald@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

As long as he has a better playoffs it’ll be fine. Mitchell was right on the cusp of being a first team all nba guard last year. He’s a guy you can count on to make it happen.

[–] TdotGdot@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Agree. Mitchell is for sure better than Brunson, but not by miles, and they kind of occupy the same space.

For the Knicks maybe you just grab the asset and figure it out later, but agree the fit is suspect.

[–] drjisftw@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (23 children)

Nobody wants to hear this but Donovan will always be a flawed player as an undersized 2.

[–] warablo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well ya, being a 6'1 shooting guard is not ideal.

[–] nikop@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'd rather be a 6'1" shooting guard with a 6'9" wingspan like Mitchell instead of a 6'4" shooting guard with a 6'3" wingspan like Desmond Bane.

[–] Round_Bullfrog_8218@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bane is 6'5 with a 6'4 wingspan

[–] nikop@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

wow that changes everything. in shoes or barefoot?

[–] larrylegend33goat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I keep saying to people that extending a forehead higher does little to benefit anyone

[–] ClutchGamingGuy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Except Mitchell doesn't use his wingspan for defense, at all

[–] nikop@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He's not really a small player is the point. He's built like a tank and has elite functional length, yet there are always complaints about his size apparently handicapping your backcourt whereas no one ever talks about Ja and Bane being a small backcourt.

[–] ClutchGamingGuy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Smaller guys can use length to play bigger. Donovan doesn't do this. He is short and plays small. He's also more of a 2, meaning he needs to play next to a playmaker to excel, despite needing the ball to be effective. Ja is small, roughly the same size as Dono, but he is the primary playmaker and ball handler for his team. Bane functions well without the ball and uses his strength extremely well. Replacing Bane, who is a solid four-ish inches taller than Dono and guards like he is, with Mitchell would make the Memphis backcourt significantly worse defensively. That's how you know the size matters. Donovan is small and makes no effort to use the physical gifts he has to make up for it.

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[–] Smooth-Jaguar@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Eh he has the wingspan and athleticism to guard most 2 guards. Not saying he can be an all nba defender or anything but effort goes a long way. Guys like PJ Tucker are undersized and was a more than competent defender. Hell OKC ranked 13th in defensive rating last year despite not having a center all year

[–] brg36@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If you’re saying that his size is what ultimately keeps him somewhere in the 11-20 range rather than being a top-10 guy in the league… are there people who legitimately argue that? You’re absolutely right imo

[–] Rakkuuuu@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This subreddit is obsessed with shitting on 2s if they're not 6'6 or something.

[–] jamills21@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe because that’s around the average size of a shooting guard?

[–] papa_sax@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe because that's not what wins playoff games??

[–] Overall-Palpitation6@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If Mitchell was a genuine 6'3" and lived up to the defensive potential he had when drafted, then it wouldn't be a problem. But he's actually 6'1" and an average-to-poor defender, despite a major plus wingspan and dunk contest athleticism.

[–] Vordeo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm just happy I don't need to pretend anymore lol

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