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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’ll believe it when I can buy a car or a laptop with a solid state battery.

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd be happy to buy a big, bulky, heavy, early version of any of these batteries for my house, as long as it's affordable, high capacity, and has a good cycle life.

It doesn't even have to fit in a car, it can be the size of a shed. Hell, I'll build a shed for it.

Yet this magical product has yet to materialize!

[–] gens@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't lead acid better for you then ?

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately the cycle life of lead-acid is TRASH to the point where in any country except for Canada, LiFePO4 or even Li-Ion are more cost effective due to their far better depth of discharge, cycle life and absolute lifespan.

Even a "deep cycle" cell can only withstand tens of actual deep cycles. To get the rated 200 cycles, you can only discharge to 80%, which makes your 10kWh bank effectively a 2kWh bank. Suddenly it doesn't look cheap anymore, especially when you're lucky to get 2 years out of it micro-cycling. Lead acid is only good for rare emergency deep discharges i.e. UPS usage and it's even questionable there now due to time degradation putting a short limit on its lifespan.

Here in Canada we can't get lithium in any form other than overpriced packs, so I do have a dying lead-acid bank that I'm hoping to limp out until we get better chemistries. It's basically a big capacitor at this point. I compensate by dumping surplus solar power into my boiler or air conditioner depending on the season, and shedding all but essential loads during outages.

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