Which other laptop let's you swap out the main board? Or the mobile GPU? Which other brand open sources their designs, schematics and repair manuals? Which other brand let's you pick and choose your storage, ram, display, keyboard, etc. (or none at all), all at market value? Nah. Framework laptops are great (albeit way too expensive).

I think the desktop was a chance to capitalize on AI nonsense for profit. When it came to the RAM they were like "well we really tried to make it repairable but AMD said they couldn't do it but oh well we just shipped it anyway 🤷"

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

Which other laptop let's you swap out the main board?

I mean my point is that you're realistically never going to do this, because its a huge premium and costs about the same as a new laptop... why swap a brand new mainboard into an old and worn out laptop...

Which other brand let's you pick and choose your storage, ram, display, keyboard, etc.

Uhhhh literally all of them??? Every laptop I've owned was built by customizing all the individual components on the manufacturers website.

My laptop (KFocus brand) is like 8 phillips screws, the back comes off, and there's full easy access to memory, drives, and network cards for simple replacement. Pretty sure it's fewer screws than framework lol

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (13 children)

its a huge premium and costs about the same as a new laptop...

It doesn't.

Uhhhh literally all of them???

Show me.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It doesn’t.

Well... Not from Framework. I looked one up and it was £700 for the main board or £1300 for the whole laptop. Or I could get a laptop with the exact same CPU (Ryzen AI 7 350) from Asus for £800. I mean, sure it's probably not as good a laptop. But even so... If your laptop breaks are you going to spend £700 on a new main board that might fix it, or £800 on a new laptop that definitely works.

It definitely doesn't make sense for upgrading - you can just sell the old laptop and buy a new one if you want to upgrade.

Tbh I hope they succeed still, but it's really hard to compete with the sheer pricing power of less modular products.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well... Not from Framework.

That's...what we were discussing?

I looked one up and it was £700 for the main board or £1300 for the whole laptop.

That's...nearly half the price.

I mean, sure it's probably not as good a laptop.

Oops, half the price and also not comparable.

If your laptop breaks are you going to spend £700 on a new main board that might fix it, or £800 on a new laptop that definitely works.

I'm definitely going to pay the 700 to have a better laptop rather than the 800 on a disposable laptop from a company with the worst reputation for customer/warranty support in the business.

You have to be prepared to keep them long term in order for them to make sense.

It definitely doesn't make sense for upgrading

It definitely does. And you've just demonstrated exactly how. If you don't care about money or quality or respect then maybe it doesn't to you.

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