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Shall we support resistance against imperialism, even if it's a fascist one that would oppress or shall stand next to every oppressed ? It could be a deep political split, for exemple between communists and anarchists, but not in this contexte.
Their is no way to really support arm resistance from US or Europe. But we have some ways to stop Israel support. Defending the Hamas will result in being marginalized from the mass, even if they do support Palestine, for no concrets support for any resistance.
This strategically a none-sense and just a posture
Ever heard of supporting the lesser evil? I bet that's the basis for how you vote. Just apply that to geopolitics.
Yep I hear that catastrophic take, it's always a shortcut to reproduce oppression. But that not the point.
What is the gain of supporting Hamas from Europe/US ? Is their weapon or training that will stop Israel ? If yes, even if I disagree politically, I would not argue on the strategy; but it's not.
We struggling to send foods and first help kit to civilian. We are not in the situation where this is a question.
Todays western left is more eager to pose than to act, and in this situations, when leftist say such things as "supporting arm resistance" it's just make people turn away.
Our class is deeply concern with Palestine situation, and the first mobilisation has to be stongly repressed by the bourgeoisie in order to stop the movement to be massive. However, the repression in a lot of countries have stopped month ago, and we are a very few to go to demonstrations and actions. We have to ask why. And I think that when people mobilize against the murder of civilian, they don't want to hear others promoting civilian murderer
"We hate genocide but we thing the victims should stay unprotected"
Typical idealistic bullshit from first worlders
You didn't read me. I said exactly the opposite.
You are literally saying we shouldn't support "armed resistance".
I'm pointing out of what we lose, and don't find any gain for the movement. I'm trying to discuss the concrete effectiveness of our strategies. You know, being materialist and stuff
All right, my apologies I see you mean well.
That being said it sounds awfully like the liberal goal of trying to appease fascists by sliding to the left. People actually like strong stances. Nobody denies that the resistance was necessary during the war. Hell people in ireland recognized that the IRA turned south at some point but that their struggle was necessary.
Have a good day :)