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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 86 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

I do think that the Nordic countries show pretty well that even if you treat your population well and put quite a lot of effort into helping the population with child rearing, it seems like women just don't want to have many children in modern society, even before everything became doom-and-gloom.

Maybe that's just how it goes when you let people decide for themselves. Or maybe modern, capitalistic society is just not conducive to childrearing, and no amount of state support for young families, kindergartens etc. is going to change that.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

There has been strong social support systems in Finland for example, but even there birth rates here have been falling. I can tell you that when you have an aggressive neighbor pushing a war right next door, job prospects are uncertain, inflation is eating away at wages, and social safety nets are being cut or dismantled, it fundamentally changes how people think about having children. That kind of instability and uncertainty about the future makes starting a family feel like too big a risk for many people.

I can also add that Trump is also screwing over the planet with his damn tariffs. This has caused variation in availability and fluctuations in pricing. It’s also continuing greedflation.

We hear about it every day. Now, let’s see how women feel about cranking out more tax payers.

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