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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 103 points 1 month ago (19 children)

If you owe the bank $100, that’s your problem; if you owe the bank $100 million, that’s the bank’s problem.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 99 points 1 month ago (18 children)

The difference between 100 million and 11.5 billion is about 11 billion. If you own a bank 11 billion that's not only that bank's problem, it's the economy's problem.

[–] sus@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

So I wondered a bit how much it actually affects the economy.

"S&P 500" companies' market cap is about 57 trillion dollars with a P/E ratio of about 30. So openai by itself is dragging down the total s&p 500 earnings by only about 0.5%. The bigger problem is that there are multiple companies like openAI, and a large chunk of the entire economy's valuation is tied to the promise that all the AI companies will somehow become profitable sometime soon.

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 15 points 1 month ago

According to this article written in July, it's a bit more dire than that if you take a step or two back. Basically, openai and their copycats/derivatives are being held up by investments from Microsoft, Google, Amazon, and Meta, who in turn are being held up by investments from Nvidia. If/when the whole chain collapses it'll be more than 0.5% of earnings that disappear.

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