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[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

Everyone who thinks this is legitimately bad. I ask, what do you think of AI art data sets? Sometimes, to make something new you have to have mass amount of data to start with.

I think people who paid to have a service, checked a box for their sample to be used for research, and the research is to cure disease, have significantly lower reason to be upset than an artist who used Twitter to upload their work and had said work used as a data set to train a product that will try to make their career even MORE financially immposible.

Boohoo. You signed up for a good cause. Get over it.

[–] duplexsystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Here's the difference, an artist can make more art. You cannot change your DNA. If someone steals some of your art it's not the end of the world. You can make more. If someone has your DNA, you can't change it. Once its out there that's it. More over having someone's DNA can give you significant insight into into just the person whose DNA you have but also their parents and their children.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Once its out there that’s it.

But the subject put it out themslevss. More over, they paid for it be used. No one was tricked, captured or coerced in to giving their DNA.

As opposed to an artist who is promoting themselves and their craft, used without their knowledge to replicate their work.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

By biological father was an anonymous sperm donor before the technology to sequence a person's DNA for under 10 billion dollars was a thing. They did not give their DNA to ancestry. Their sister did, having no clue that her brother had donated. Yet ancestry has matched her to several nieces and nephews, outing her brother's history to his sister and the children who were never supposed to have access to that info. It's not just your own information.

Similarly, one of my half siblings suddenly found out that his dad wasn't his birth dad.

Anyways, he happens to be cool with the fact that he suddenly had contact with offspring who weren't supposed to know who he was.

But our DNA is interconnected. It doesn't just belong to one person.

[–] poppy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Happier version of your story:

My dad an I both did 23 and Me. He made sure I knew he had done sperm donation before I met my mother just in case something came up. Well, it did! I have two half siblings from his donations! I think it’s cool, and I think he’s happy to know he helped two families have a child.

I have a lot of half-siblings. One set of two, one set of 3 (I've only met the oldest), one only child, there's me and my two full siblings, and the donor's actual child. There's more out there. Another we matched with their child, but I don't think we even know their name. Been pretty cool meeting all of them and the donor. Its actually been a happy experience, but one certain people had no choice in making.

[–] probablyaCat@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

It's interconnected, sure, but I think you'd have an uphill battle that it doesn't belong to that person.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mostly agree, except both my parents did it so they more or less have my DNA without my consent. They sure might not have the exact combination that I received from them but it’s more than I’m comfortable with.

[–] LennethAegis@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Though the amount of possible permutations combined with epigenetic triggers you've activated makes it practically impossible to guess which combination you have.

Yes but it makes it significantly easier to guess

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