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Google employees typically work more than eight hours a day: Internal memo::Employees said they were eager to share the HR representative's response with their relatives.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (14 children)

But should it be true? Why should businesses people work for expect or require them to use more than the minimum amount of time required for a full-time job, which should be lower anyway?

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

As an almost FAANG sized company engineer, I stay because I have work to do.

They ask me: Hey RedditWanderer, how much money /people and how long will it take to do this? I'm free to say whatever number, but I need to hit it. And when I don't, I often feel personally responsible that I wasn't able to foresee delays. They pay me a lot to get it right so I work a lot to look like I'm right.

On top of that the studio is like a 4 star hotel. Running late and would like to finish this one thing? That's cool they'll cook me food and pay my cab home. Got this project right? Here's $80,000 worth of stock as bonus. Don't feel like working today? Then just don't come to work. It's all about the social contract that they'll let me do whatever I want because they'll know I'll do as much as I can.

I'm not saying it's the proper way to do anything, and I definitely don't expect my teams to stay late. Ideally I do my job well and nobody (aside maybe for me) needs to feel like they should work later.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's definitely not the proper way to do anything if you have a family. You should not have to choose between being a present parent and being paid what you're worth. But a lot of companies, Google included, take a dim view of people who refuse to work as many hours as they can.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago

The sad reality is that a lot of people evade parenting by spending way too much time at their work. To some extent using work as an excuse to spend less time educating and spending times with kids.

So you either get the social stigma of not willing to have kids, or you do get some kids and actually don't want to spend time with them ?

Obviously, some parents find the right balance between the two and actually care about the kids enough to keep work in check but I'm starting to think that's more an exception than the norm.

Sorry if this is rough to read or offensive. As I said, I work 39h a week and most of the higher ups at work do 41/42+ hours a week easy. It's obvious than they choose work before education. There is a point where it's just physically impossible to be there for your kids while spending that much time work. Don't even get me started on these higher ups spending so much time working even when they do get home.

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