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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 33 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Makes sense, Java sucks and native apps are much faster and use less resources.

Once they paid Tencent, Baidu and Alibaba to port their apps, basically 95% of the Chinese market is satisfied.

You only need WeChat, taobao, alipay, pinduoduo, Baidu and amap in China.

Because they don't need to worry about selling their device abroad, they have the luxury to not only give up to google apps, but to all the apps

iPhone users are also having similar limitations with all the apps in the app store blacklisted except a few dozens manually approved by govt, but Apple is still selling a lot of units, even if it's just a "WeChat mobile terminal" and not a real smartphone anymore

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Java definitely does not suck. There is a reason it runs virtually everywhere, from SIM cards to most servers of the world through Spring

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

interpreted languages are inherently slower than native code. Because huawei controls the hardware they don't need portability and can focus on speed

on a phone, using java will give all the disadvantages with no advantages

look at iphone vs android, for years apple had better battery life and better performance even with half the ram, a worse cpu and smaller batteries

[–] runefehay@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Java isn't an interpreted language any more than C. Java gets compiled into its own machine code developed by Sun. That machine code can be converted to native code or just run "interpreted." (which is more like emulation.)

Maybe you should learn more about something before you criticize it.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't think to any program made in java that isn't a memory hog.

Look at the performance of Minecraft java vs native

Or vuze that uses 20x the memory of qbittorrent for doing the same stuff but with less features

So either java devs don't know how to optimize code, or the language itself has some problems

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course there comes the Minecraft comparison. Which also conveniently ignores the fact that Minecraft can run incredibly fast using certain performance mods. It's not Java, it's just shitty programming / code that hogs its performance.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

i did a comparison also with vuze, which is incredibly inefficient compared to other clients

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