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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seems like domestic microchip manufacturing is a sensible thing for China to develop, given how the next decade is probably gonna go.

[–] joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org 26 points 6 months ago (3 children)

wasnt the cpu they made just an intel with their company sticker on it? or did they actually managed to copy the machines required for building them

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They would have used tmsc, China hasn’t caught up to that yet.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Does TSMC and Taiwan in general do much business at all with Mainland China? I would think, especially given recent geopolitical events and the significantly more concerning saber rattling by the PRC would preclude Taiwan giving the mainland anything really meaningful in terms of tech. AFAIK these new chips are coming out of SMIC, not TSMC, and considering it’s the PRC, it’s very possible that significant portions of the architecture were just reverse engineered.

[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

China does purchase TSMC stuff

What I’m saying is that TSMC may outright halt sales to mainland China if the PRC gets much more bellicose in its threats to “reunify” with Taiwan.

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It has its own instruction set architecture called LoongArch which in turn is based on MIPS, there is no relation to Intel's x86

Edit: apparently the differences compared to MIPS are minor

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I wonder how much proprietary technology was stolen by spies or paid assets.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

that happened way quicker than i expected, good on them.

also isnt zhaoxin manufacturing knockoff ryzens?

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Good right? Intel’s hegemony needs to end. Hope they are going to tackle GPUs as well.

[–] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If there was any confidence this is a homegrown design, I'd agree. But in all likelihood, they've just reverse engineered and copied Intel architecture and claimed it's their own.

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's so homegrown it even has it's own instruction set architecture.

Edit: it is based on MIPS, but apparently the differences compared to it are minor

[–] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

They actually have GPU's but they are far far behind. Think of intels GPU's on release. They will get there eventually tho.