It looks like Skyrim in space and I don't really get why anyone was expecting something else
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Right? There was this one guy on Lemmy the other day expecting the game to be like Freelancer.... Like, dude, it's Fallout with a space suit, we've known that for years now. I feel like gamers always have the most stupid and unrealistic expectations imaginable.
Freelancer
“We don't own this place but we have an understanding with the people who do.”
But Skyrim is beautiful even with its older graphics and has an interesting world to explore. Grey space metal structures on grey planets just aren't interesting. Also even more so if the story starts with "you touched a weird rock", don't know why but here have my spaceship.
In Skyrim you're waking up going to be executed next moment there's a dragon attack.
I mean id argue Skyrim isnt that great to look at either, given its a continent full of tombs and snow due to its climate. Its just gray and white.
Both Morrowwind and Oblivion had more interesting places to look at than skyrim did.
I disagree, skyrim had beautiful nature, landscape and skies.
Are you about to bring up skies of all things, and compare to a space game with multiple skies due to having multiple planets?
Haven't played starfield yet, i just know that Skyrim has beautiful star constellations
I mean, yeah, if you aren't into the core elements of a game you probably won't be interested in the game. It's like say, "I'm not impressed with the new Mario game. I don't want to do platforming, and I don't care about powerups or collecting things."
Yeah, lot of people are upset that Bethesda released a Bethesda game.
"Why is this like Skyrim in space and not like completely different studios style?"
Well, probably because Bethesda made the game and not the other studio...
A surprising percentage of gamers seem to think that any new AAA title game is catered to them and rather than understand it was made for other people, they complain about how bad it is.
fair
Sounds like you simply don’t like science fiction video games then. Thanks for letting us know. I’m gonna go play some Starfield now.
Well I (not OP) would love me some actual Mass Effect 4, for example. Not really excited for a sci-fi Bethesda RPG though.
I love death stranding for example.
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People are getting pretty spicy with the responses. OP was just underwhelmed by a game getting a lot of hype. Like lots of people are going to like it, but not everyone. I think theyre just trying to generate discussion, not say "everyone who likes starfield is an CHUMP!!" or something.
haha thanks yeah I just shared my thoughts, but this is the internet after all ;)
It's a space clutter looter
Played 8 hours last night so this is a very early impression. I love clutter looters and didn't expect much else from Bethesda's Fallout/Scrolls main studio. The Bethesda crafted areas are excellent if you are looking for what I call a Fallout / Elder Scrolls clutter looter. Lots of stuff to loot, the FPS combat is much better than Fallout 4 or 76. Don't expect a space sim like SC or NMS this is a Bethesda Fallout/Scrolls style game with a bunch of additional systems on top of it.
First person combat
I've played both SC and NMS. While exploring a station in Starfield I thought to myself... this is what SC should have been for their foot exploration. The derelict stations in NMS are rather static environments and never cared for them much. What surprised me about the Starfield AI is they will "flee" or "flank" by running past you at times. I've lost track of enemies at times because of this and have had to go hunting for them.
Ship travel
There is fast travel. If you are looking for a space flight sim this is not for you. I don't have an issue with fast travel as I get no thrills from traveling in space 1:1. There is simulation and there is stupid... SC leans a bit too heavy into the latter. Don't expect 1:1 space travel in Starfield, it isn't made for that.
Ship combat
Again this is not a space flight sim. Most recently coming off Everspace 2 I do miss the strafing controls and pedal usage, but that game is star fighter like combat. Starfield does have a ship editor and seems to be more about load out than fighter style combat. Think a bit more like Expanse style combat. I don't have much time in this area of the game so I can't say a whole lot more about it.
Initial impression
I love Bethesda clutter looters and this one is in space. Going to eat up the Bethesda crafted clutter looter areas. The 1,000 worlds will likely function as a massive canvas for future mods.
Played 8 hours last night so this is a very early impression
HOLY CRAP it takes like 25 minutes to play through DuckTales on the NES, I guess I'm not used to modern games. 😆
Anyway, thanks for the great write-up!
DuckTales
The Moon theme is now in my head.
The mansion level is the most fun I think.
It took me about 14 hours in to reveal a major game mechanic that Bethesda didn't even mention. it's wild how big this game is I did some goofing around and side stuff but not that much.
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Yeah, also getting strong "not for me"-vibes. Looks like a less grimey Fallout in space. Graphics seem to be far less amazing as I imagined from trailers.
Edit: Buuut I think lots of people will have fun with this and that's cool!
Looks like a less grimey Fallout in space
That's exactly what it is. Also less fallout humor. If you don't like other BGS games you aren't going to like this one.
It's not as open and "huge scale" as people seem to think it is.
It's kind of "fake open" if that makes sense.
You cannot get into your ship and fly 500m east to your mission.
If you do that, a new instance is loaded and your mission is not there.
Made me disappointed.
It is exactly as shitty as I expected it to be. Another crappy bethesda game in a long line of garbage. I think the last game from them I truly enjoyed was Morrowind. I don't think New Vegas counts. Fallout 4 was depressing being so close to good. Every moment in that game screams half baked. That quest where you help the robots out with their ship showed me just how possible it was to make the game good, but then it was the only good quests besides maybe the silver shroud one.
I don’t want to hear how good this game is because I only own a PS5 and don’t have a gaming PC.
Good news for you: It's not very good. At least not the first 5 hours, which are painfully boring and full of jank.
A decade old gaming PC (that was mid-tier at best back then), a PS5 that's not technically mine, a Switch, and an OG Xbox One. Tell me about it. 😂
An honest answer. I can respect that
Personally from the screenshots and the vids I didn't feel like the game would be for me. Is there actual story? Are there fun characters to hang with?
Bethesda games have quite a recognizable formula, and this seems like their blandest implementation.
But hey, i am basing this on the other games and a handful of material. Ill probably crack it and wait for it to lower in price big time.
Yeah, the story/stories and characters are the actual meat of the game. It's not a space sim like Star Citizen or NMS, it's an RPG first and foremost, really.
Also, so far (~20 hours in) it's way less bland than Fallout 4. It's a way more of an RPG (I talked my way out of confrontations multiple times, sometimes even using my background and traits, when relevant). Sure, if you just keep landing on planets and going to the auto generated structures and scanning wildlife, it's probably gonna be quite bland. But there's way more actual content, way more actual quests that aren't just clearing out bandits/raiders. The space sim-y stuff, that's just there to sell the fantasy. Yes, you can be a bounty hunter or space trucker or whatever, but that content is of course going to be way more autogenerated, bland stuff. I'd recommend doing that stuff on the side, when you want a break from story heavy quests.
But even clearing out raiders is often waymore fun in Starfield, especially when it's in space. For example, I came across an abandoned zero-gravity casino space station that spacers (one of this games version of raiders and bandits) were in, while I was on my way to the space cowboy city, and that was a very fun fight.
Another time, I was heading back to New Atlantis when I noticed a symbol for a ship in the same system. When I went to investigate, I first got into a dogfight with another ship, disabled their engine and borded them, then I noticed there was some kind of heavy freighter they were raiding, so I docked with that. On that ship, the engines were funky and as they were turning on and off the gravity was going, too, so I was fighting my way through a ship where the gravity was constantly fluctuating, which then also factored into small environmental puzzles, like waiting for the gravity to turn off to go up an elevator shaft. Eventually got to into the vault the space pirates were trying to get into, and although I couldn't get all of it because I didn't have a high enough lockpicking skill (the new lockpicking minigame is also kinda fun, ngl), but I did pick up some contraband. When I then finally actually went to New Atlantis, the contraband was caught by the scanners, I was arrested and then forcibly conscripted to go undercover into the Crimson Fleet (the space pirates), although I could've killed my way off the ship they brought me to if I wanted. Then the contact to get into the Crimson Fleet was actually the same person that gave the orders to attack that freighter I found! (There was an audiolog, because of course.) Sorry for going off on a tangent, I just felt like it would illustrate my point better than just saying "it good"
I also probably have like 5 other quests in my quest log to go join some faction, some big factions, some small factions. And that's without even going to the cyberpunk city.
And so far I haven't had to follow a dog for 20 minutes in search of a chainsmoker, so that's already better than Fallout 4.
Please don't apologize for the tangent. It's giving me high hopes that I'm going to like the game despite the flaws and (probably mostly legit) criticism of reviewers.
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okay that does sound cool
That seemed like a great playsession. You definitly managed to upsell this game to me!
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I played for a few hours last night and, so far, I feel exactly the same. I'm going to try to barrel through the main narrative for a bit, which is supposed to "open up" the game a lot more - but the game systems and UI themselves are a major part of what is killing it for me. That, and the fact that the game so far seems to be little more than a mediocre FPS.
It's pretty decent if you liked Bethesda's other AAA games. I was actually surprised that there was even some amount of spaceship piloting at all - I just assumed it would be 100% fast travel.
However, the game runs like dogshit - even on my decently mid-range system, it takes 15-30 seconds of loading between menus, and I swear I spent half the time I played waiting for the game to load. I assume that this is meant to take advantage of the Xbox and PS5's faster memory and DirectStorage, but on PC it's borderline unplayable
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No one cares.
I mean the game is probably mediocre to okay, but why are they selling it for SEVENTY EURO? I mean wtf. If they want 70€ it should be outstandingly good. I would maybe buy it for 40€, but this greed is a hard pass for me.
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Eh, for me, it has story and apparently I can romance people and shoot stuff. So it's already up there for me. But can totally see how people will feel different. Especially if you felt any hype for this. Me however has had no hype for Bethesda games after fallout 76
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