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Scoop: The Sunrise Movement group that aided climate plan won't back Biden (www.axios.com)

submitted 5 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/climate@slrpnk.net

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

For now, the group is taking a wait-and-see approach. But officials are clearly sounding the alarm that Sunrise activists might not support Biden, even after he passed historic climate legislation that they helped craft.

"Biden is shooting himself in the foot: his actions on fossil fuels and Gaza mean he's not going to get the celebration he's looking for" from environmentally conscious voters, Stevie O'Hanlon, communications director for Sunrise, told Axios.

"Sunrise is still finalizing plans for the 2024 general election," she said.

[–] realbadat@programming.dev -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, yes, because Trump has been historically climate friendly, and didn't try to sell his presidency to oil companies even as little as a few weeks ago.

Great choice. Brilliant even.

Edit: For those down voting without a comment, please feel free to explain why you think not voting (which is going to boost Trump) or voting 3rd party (which again, is going to boost Trump) is helpful.

As opposed to not ignoring the differences between candidates, accepting that Biden is the lesser evil, pushing for progressives at the city/state level, and having a future path forward as opposed to what Trump has explicitly stated his plans are where there won't be a progressive option in the future.

I'd love to hear a viable alternative, really.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Voting fir either is making it worse.

No arguments that Trumps a scum bag but if folks dont start moving Green, nothing will EVER change.

[–] realbadat@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

I'm going to have to disagree pretty hard.

Biden won't do much of anything to move things where they need to be, absolutely. But Trump is going to make it much worse - and a few months before an election, those are the only choices.

To get more progressives in requires starting lower down. Local, county, and state representatives. Shawn Fain, for example, would have a good chance in a state election. More folks like Cori Bush or Jeff Merkley representing their state at the federal level.

With Trump elected - democracy is at stake, we've already seen that just a few years ago. You're not getting progressives anywhere in a Trump presidency.

Voting for one doesn't move the needle. Voting for the other, or not voting at all and taking a vote against a potential future, is guaranteed to make things worse.

Suggesting Trump and Biden are the same and yield the same results is absolute lunacy.