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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 42 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Floridians would literally flood the whole state if it meant that jt would hurt trans people and poc.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As said elsewhere, not all Floridians are drinking the kool aid.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Well then they need to vote

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They do.

It would be great if the US wasn't a winner-take-all system by design...

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They should support fairvote in that case. Hold republicans and democrats accountable.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

As a Floridian who hates the direction this state's politicians have taken things, I'm just going to leave. The place is a swamp that's also on fire. There's no saving this shit.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Somebody said recently that they see climate change denial as colonization, but I see it as gentrification. The rich can usually afford to deal with the fallout of climate change, while the rest of us are a sacrifice they're willing to make.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah. The new Fallout TV series is a pretty explicit metaphor for this, lol.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago

I saw a quite and I'm paraphrasing

As climate change progresses, the rich will lead more. expensive and uncomfortable lives... and the poor will die.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Not sure why you had to bring Justin Timberlake into this but you're right.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, Miami is definitely toast, and the rest of the coast is in trouble. I am already feeling huge anxiety for this hurricane season.

As cold as the insurance companies can be, when it comes to probabilities and making money, they are clear eyed. They see the writing on the wall.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago

Our insurance companies are urgently trying to leave the state. What does this say?

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On one hand I want a series of hurricanes to rip across the state making florida a barely livable swampland for a few months to perhaps shake people out of apathy and get the property investors out of the fucking housing market down here. On the other I'd like it if I could insure the imaginary house that I can somehow afford after I win the lottery please...

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It doesn't work like that. Hurricanes are already plenty intense.

New buyers moving here from out of state have no clue. No one tells them what an existential threat the hurricanes are, even inland, and they only learn when they go through their first bad one.

Meanwhile, people build giant mansions right on the coast... because they don't care. They're snowbirds that don't live here during hurricane season anyway, they build them on stilts or whatever, and honestly if the houses are demolished it's probably not even a huge deal to the owners.

Honestly, insurance is the best bucket of cold water. The sticker price for flood insurance, if you can even get it at all anymore is just about the biggest shock people get. It's a heard measure of just how risky the area you're in is, kinda like living close to a volcano.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

IDK how that's possible, pretty sure I saw they outlawed climate change earlier this month, soo.....

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Oh no. No, no, no - it’s . . . coincidence. Yeah.

Again.