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Why the hell is every app and program out there just being prude bitches and making porn harder to access?

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 98 points 1 year ago

Bro if you're having a hard time finding porn on the Internet, the problem is you!

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.cafe 85 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Advertisers don't like it, and won't advertise where there's porn. Advertisers pay for most of these websites' existence. They capitulate to the demands.

[–] Starb3an@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every porn site I've ever been too is loaded with ads so they can't be too bad. I will admit almost every ad is for other porn sites/scams

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[–] sciawp@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Don’t forget about payment processors like visa that can enforce restrictions on NSFW content

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What kind of gourmet shit are you hunting for?

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Gourmet shit, obviously.

Scat Apps hate this one simple trick!

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

You are doing internet wrongly.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

-> pornhub.com

-> xvideos.com

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

Advertising is the big one. Many companies simply don't want to advertise anywhere where porn is present even if it's segregated.

Payment processors is the next big one. Most processors won't service porn sites which makes it hard to collect money for sites with porn. You get stuck with worse service and higher rates.

Legal compliance is another big problem. Lots of countries have lots of different laws and operating a porn website can get you in trouble in places you weren't aware of if you aren't careful. You need to verify ages, and consent of both users and models. In some countries simply looking younger than 18/whatever age can be a problem.

Overall if a site has mixed content, it can be much less hassle and much more income to drop the porn if there's sufficient non-porn content.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Competition is so cutthroat. If you started a new porn service today there would CSAM on your servers tomorrow.

Would it be actionable? Diubtful. Not to say it isn't happening out there but these incidents are largely competition playing dirty.

I base this on nothing. Welcome to the internet.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I claim you are completely wrong. You clearly have no idea what you are talking. Based on my feelings, so I'm right.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am actually the world leading exper in being wrong and nuh uh

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[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 28 points 1 year ago

I think a lot of folks are forgetting that Visa and MC are prudes and gatekeep money.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

… and here I am, actively blocking porn or porn-adjacent shit on Lemmy.

[–] Chriszz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Am I the only one who has seen absolutely no porn on lemmy ever? I haven’t had to block any but I would if I saw it. Where are you guys seeing this?

[–] frosty99c@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you signed up, did you select "Show NSFW content?"

[–] Chriszz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That might be it. I can’t remember but it would explain why I don’t see any porn.

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[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I only ever see it on /c/all, and it's relatively little and it's all vanilla, single naked model, still photo shit. Basically as non-pornographic porn can get while still being porn (aka: OnlyFans ads and reposted Celeb shit).

I was here slightly before the exodus, and the most hilarious post-exodus post I saw was people saying "our lemmy porn is normalizing, we're finally becoming a place open for normies", where the OP was saying that the Furries were going away. The thing is: Furries were NEVER a sizable, noticeable presence on Lemmy to begin with. This isn't Blueskies, the community isn't suspiciously a bunch fo bara fur enjoyers. And they said that around the time Burggit opened up and being talked a bunch as the place to defederate, meaning degeneracy was going UP.

So basically, People who complain about Porn on Lemmy just confuse me. Tech, Sports and Politics shit are actual garbage that ACTUALLY floods the entire dashboard.

[–] Armen12@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

No

Everyone complaining about porn on lemmy is lying, there's literally nothing here. they're just ultra-conservative right-wingers who hate sex

[–] eee@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's your choice, and that's entirely fine. but it's different when a platform deliberately makes it inaccessible.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Why? It's their platform.

I like porn. I'm a fan. But I'm with you on that. If I want it, I know where to get it. It's not really why I'm here.

Also, it really ruins it for me that because it's all user -contributed, it feels like being recommended porn by a creepy, off-puttingly thirsty highschooler. Given the demographics in places like this, that may actually be somewhat close to reality

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can understand why a person has no interest in it and I personally don't need to access it but I also don't really care if it available. I do not become offended if it is available.

In reality I am far more uncomfortable with violent content yet they seem to get far less attention then porn.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, I block it as well, not because I'm a prude, but because I want to read stuff etc. without looking at naked bodies. When I want to get funky, I switch to my other account which is only subscribed to porn.

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[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Same, Its not that i don’t like porn but i got tired of blocking every instance of furry porn; like how many do you need?

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[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

Porn is easier to access than it's ever been, unless you live in a country with heavy internet censorship

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It isn't advertising friendly, that's why. Also online children protection act or some such law.

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[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please put the NSFW tag on the post.

Then we can talk about the good stuff.

[–] qisope@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

no, then it would be too easy for op to access

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually a skill issue.

Seriously, don’t even leave this site, just go to the search bar and look up whatever you’re into, there’s probably a comm specifically for it. Even you sounding freaks.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Completely depends on the instance, many don't allow NSFW.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

M8 search results will show comms from other instances

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[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I've got a few theories:

My guess is that certain companies are concerned about repercussions related to porn related content due to an impending buyout or IPO. Personally I don't blame them.

Advertisers hate it, payment providers hate it.

Fediverse has recently been attacked by CP spammers, and instances like the one I'm on has actually shut off image sharing all together.

Moderation is a problem globally, even if this content slips through automated filtering there will always be exposure, and always people affected. And unfortunately the tolerance for CP or even copyrighted content is precisely zero due to public backlash and the news articles.

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Exactly. There are a lot of sketchy porn related businesses, and porn is ripe with abuse. Also, porn sites have a moderation problem. It is difficult to verify that the videos people upload don't contain CP (it's hard to tell someone's age just by looking at them), rape, if the people actually consented to the video being uploaded etc. PH decided to just delete all non-verified uploaders, and it is understandable why.

A lot of businesses just don't want to be associated with that, or have to moderate that, or have any involvement. And this also affects their relationship with other businesses.

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[–] fernandorincon@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My lemmy feed has so much porn that I had to turn on the filter

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] TruTollTroll@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see so much porn on this site lemmy alone... scroll by new and hot, and you find tons of it... it's actually kind of annoying how often I see naked chicks and dicks and more on this site compared to others that do good at censoring it from the front pages...

[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, I never see porn, but then I sort by the 12 hour thing.

[–] TruTollTroll@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if I sort by new, or hot, I will get plenty of boob/vag images.. not that I'm hating, I believe women should be able to post this is they want, but I also am not a huge porn consumer as woman myself.. it's just not my bag. Lol so it can be a little surpriseing to see full bodies after reading musk foiled Ukrainian plans, the Wisconsin GOP trying to impeach an elected (D) supreme court judge, and then bam! Crotch shot lmao 🤣😂

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