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“With the release of Windows 10 21H2, Windows offers inbox support for Mopria compliant printer devices over network and USB interfaces via the Microsoft IPP Class Driver. This removes the need for print device manufacturers to provide their own installers, drivers, utilities, and so on.  Device experience customization is now available via the Print Support Apps that are distributed and automatically installed via the Windows Store,” the company wrote.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 69 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"via Windows Update" - key piece of info missing from the headline "for some reason".

Yeah, I don't see a need for Windows update to do any 3rd party stuff.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If done right, it could be a positive curator. Rules like "any drivers you get off of Windows update met certain tests, are not padded with unrelated crapware, etc."

But I suspect that won't fly. My main experience with WU drivers is a tendency to replace new drivers with old, broken ones. And I doubt printer makers-- the guys who made a 600MB driver to do the same tasks that a LaserJet 4 did with a 30k driver 30 years ago-- would play ball.

[–] x3i@lemmy.x3i.tech 9 points 1 year ago

Well, the "distributed and automatically installed" part seems more like Windows users will automatically get that bloatware installed; no way to get a minimal driver without bullshit utilities anymore, right? I assume that utility will be written by the device manufacturer...

[–] giloronfoo@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

The device manufacturers have to send the driver to Microsoft to get them signed. Windows needs some sort of drivers available out of the box. Might as well keep them up to date with the signed versions.

It's been this way for some device types for at least 20 years.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

Thank you. The title is misleading clickbait.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

I hate the constant creep into areas they don't need to be. It's no wonder so many of us stick with a stable OS for years, just so we avoid this stalking.

I held onto XP until 2011, and Win 7 until last year.

[–] Sina@beehaw.org 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use an Asus Gladius 2 wireless mouse. On Windows upon plugging it in for the first time WU installed most of Armory Crate and called it a "driver" and of course it immediately wanted to connect to the Internet.. So yes, I'm skeptical.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jeez, my Razer mouse only launches the installer for their crap, it doesn't automatically do the installation.

[–] mudeth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So did my Asus motherboard. It didn't install armoury crate, but it pop up as a suggestion. Maybe op just clicked through absent-mindedly?

[–] Sina@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

No such thing, did not click anything. I only noticed because of the firewall popup & then I started to investigate what is going on really. Luckily on Linux there is no crap like this..

[–] flak@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah and there was a whole privilege escalation exploit because of that, get system level access whenever you plug in a Razer peripheral because you could open a powershell window from the "Choose where to install" prompt.

I'm honestly surprised that made it past as many layers of checks as it did.

[–] stormio@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

TIL there's an organization called Mopria that develops universal printing standards. As a computer geek who works in the tech industry, I'm surprised I've never heard of this before.