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Signed up for Equifax to freeze my credit, password can not be longer than 20 characters (i.imgur.com)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by nokturne213@sopuli.xyz to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Not only does the credit bureau max out their password length, you have a small list of available non-alphanumeric characters you can use, and no spaces. Also you cannot used a plused email address, and it had an issue with my self hosted email alias, forcing me to use my gmail address.

Both Experian and transunion had no password length limitations, nor did they require my username be my email address.

Update: I have been unable to log into my account for the last 3 days now. Every time I try I get a page saying to call customer service. After a total of 2 hours on hold I finally found the issue, you cannot connect to Equifax using a VPN. In addition there is no option for 2FA (not even email or sms) and they will hang up on you if you push the issue of their security being lax. Their reasoning for lax security and no vpn usage is "well all of our other customers are okay with this".

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[–] normplum@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 months ago

@nokturne213 Add it to https://dumbpasswordrules.com/

#DumbPasswordRules

[–] mihnt@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So according to those rules, the password 6666666699999999Ya?! would work?

Or does the consecutive characters thing break the numbers? Or is that just numbers in general?

Not confusing at all or anything...

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

I think 12345678901234aB+ would work though. If I am able to log in (I currently have to call customer service to be able to log in) I will try both of these passwords and see if either is accepted.

[–] UnbalancedFox@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I had an account there with a proton email address and suddenly I couldn't log in anymore. After 6 months of calling, someone finally told me proton emails are blocked because they are not secure. So I changes it to a tutanota email

What a clusterf**k

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

I almost used my proton mail because I can create an alias, where equifax would not accept a plused gmail account.

[–] iamam@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

I'm just gonna go ahead and say it: 16 Characters are sufficient and 20 pretty damn secure.

That is assuming they do stuff right and there are no vulnerabilities, which they won't and there are. However they may manifest, they are a greater concern at 16+ characters, especially if they don't offer 2FA.

The reason is that even if machines become powerful enough that 16 characters can be bruteforced, which they can't atm, you can effectively defend everything against bruteforce attacks by other means. Including but not limited to limiting login attempts, salts and pepper, multiple encryption layers etc.

With just ~~a salt~~ pepper you can make a 16 char password effectively a 24 char password... Or a 2.000.000 char password. Assuming it is not stolen alongside that is.

Edit: Changed 'salt' to 'pepper'.

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