If you provide real social security for anyone in the country and don't limit immigration at all, you attract people who aren't willing or able to work and want to live off social security.
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There is no or a very small impact of regulation on the number of exiled people coming in country. However, making more people illegal let bosses exploit them more. Those workers could not sue their boss because of those regulations, and most conservative unions rely unfortunately too much on legal solutions.
So if a country couldn't limit immigrations, it could exploit more people and bybass human right with regulations against exiled people.
Yes, this is only positive for far-right bosses, and awful for others. But guess who decide in a capitalist economy ?
Not sure why you were downvoted, but this is a good point. In fact, I find it interesting that the US hasn't stopped pretending and just lifted the law against hiring illegal immigrants.
It's the main argument on how to stop illegal immigration, no one seems to talk about. Instead of building walls, jailing people or even shooting them for crossing the border, they should crack down on the people who hire them. To me it's just conservatives admitting that their opinions are just racist.
Sorry if you the conversation was about Europe. Just relating it to home.
If immigration leads to more unemployment, then that is an economic problem, especially in the hypothetical case where the social benefits system is getting more and more strained by an influx of unemployed people. But generally, I think that you can expect that the immigrants will soon find employment. Besides that, there's the cultural aspect that @jet@hackertalks.com mentioned. You could also make the point that the country's infrastructure is more and more stressed as the population grows, but that is fixable and potentially counteracted by the labour potential of the immigrants themselves (i.e., qualified immigrant work forces can make a large-scale infrastructure overhaul possible that will lead to greater national capacities and a net benefit for the entire population).
Aside from these things, I would argue that most of the other reasons boil down to xenophobia or racism.
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Many people believe that too much immigration causes the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group by means such as the disintegration of its political and social institutions, of its culture, language, national feelings, religion, and its economic existence.
Ok, but how?
I mean, people want to keep their customs and traditions, so immigrants will bring their own customs and traditions, and if you have lots of immigrants, their customs and traditions will become the main ones in that place.
You'd need to bring in more immigrants than the current population, which I don't think any country is anywhere close to.
True that, but you see the effects locally. Also, you need an arguably small portion of the population being immigrants for them to become relevant in the society, no need to replace everyone. Relevant minorities get legislation protecting them and their traditions/beliefs.
Which is as it should be, right?
I mean, sure. I'm not debating whether it's right or wrong, I'm just saying that naturally, once a minority becomes relevant, they start demanding recognition, especially if their culture differs quite a bit from the "host" country, which is not wrong in and of itself. I feel like it's more evident when the immigrant population differs quite a bit from the host country. This is just my opinion though, based on my local and anectodal experiences, so feel free to disagree with me, I'm open to dialogue.
But I feel like I'm sidetracking from the main question here.
My sentences are weird because I'm not english.
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