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[–] SuperFola@programming.dev 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How come the hallucinating ghost in the machine is generating code so bad the production servers hallucinate even harder and crash?

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 21 points 4 days ago (11 children)

I’m not sure how AI supposed to understand code. Most of the code out there is garbage. Even most of the working code out there in the world today is garbage.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 days ago

LLMs are not supposed to understand, they are supposed to pretend to understand.

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You have to be hallucinating to understand.

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’ve licked the frog twice! How many does it take?

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A-one. A-two-hoo. A-three... *Crumch*

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[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 24 points 3 days ago (6 children)

The point of the article isn't that AI is outright useless as a coding tool but that it lulls programmers into a false sense of security regarding the quality and security of their code. They aren't reviewing their work as frequently because of this new reliance on AI as a time saver, and as such are more likely to miss any mistakes that they or the AJ made.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The point of the article isn’t that AI is outright useless as a coding tool but that it lulls programmers into a false sense of security regarding the quality and security of their code.

Lulling them into a false sense of security is half of what makes it useless. The fact that it makes shitty code is the other half.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Now now, AJ may not know everything, but he'll learn

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[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

"AI" is just good for simple code snippets. (Which it stole from Github repos).

This whole ai bs needs to die already, and the people who lie about it held accountable.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good. Maybe if the stuff trashes enough of our infrastructure somebody somewhere will actually figure out that it's bad and get rid of it forever.

I know, it'll never happen. But a man can dream.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

AI can be a useful tool, but it’s not a substitute for actual expertise. More reviews might patch over the problem, but at the end of the day, you need a competent software developer who understands the business case, risk profile, and concrete needs to take responsibility for the code if that code is actually important.

AI is not particularly good at coding, and it’s not particularly good at the human side of engineering either. AI is cheap. It’s the outsourcing problem all over again and with extra steps of having an algorithm hide the indirection between the expertise you need and the product you’re selling.

[–] Rob200@lemmy.autism.place 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait. Ai doesn't have logic built beyond untested data that's thrown at it? Who could had told someone this would happen ahead of time? Conspiracy theorists.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why have you blanked out bits of the article?

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Also it is pure junk. Chat-GPT code may come out fast on the screen but it's garbage. I tried python and c++ both just pure garbage. Sure I got it to do what I wanted but only after a day of hair pulling repetitive madness. Simple task, open an image and invert it . Then we'll it opened the image but didn't invert. Or maybe it's upside down. Can you open the image right side up and invert it....fuck fuck, why is the window full screen? Did I ask for full screen, shit heavens no! Anyway it's a fuckin idiot just rambling code at me.

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Debugging and maintenance was always the hardest aspect of large code bases... writing the code is the easy part. Offloading that part to AI only makes the hard stuff harder

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

I have a lot of empathy for a lot of people. Even ones, who really don't deserve it. But when it comes to people like these, I have absolutely none. If you make a chatbot do your corporate security, it deserves to burn to the ground

[–] fuzzy_feeling@programming.dev 14 points 4 days ago

ahahahaha...

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