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[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m guessing someone did 🔫🩸👂

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Nah false flag. It looks staged.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I highly doubt that, staging something like this would be an insanely dangerous move, a slight miss from the shooter in such a scenario would be lethal, and given other people at the event seem to have been killed, it seems clear that lethal rounds were used. Trump may be a fan of ridiculous stunts, but he's also pretty self interested; I do not think he would risk his own life for such a stunt.

I understand the impulse to not want someone one agrees with politically to have done something like try a political assassination, and then immediately leap to the idea that the notion that the event might help the intended victim's political chances is just a bit too convenient and therefore must mean they orchestrated it, but it must be remembered that, whatever views one has, or groups one is in, or identities one holds, as long as they are not so obscure as to be shared by only a handful of people, it is statistically likely that there will be people who are on your team or side of group who are willing to do something like this given the chance, just by virtue of such people making up a fraction of the population.

Trump is hated by a lot of people, myself included and a large fraction of the people likely to be reading this too I'm sure. It is not at all unrealistic to imagine that someone hates him enough to try to kill him.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The only reason I want this to be staged is because I want it to be exposed as a stunt. He fucking deserves this and I'm only sad he missed. Fuck. Donald. Trump.

I'd be celebrating if he hadn't.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Has Trump ever made you think "that guy makes good choices"?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, but he also does not look suicidal enough to have someone shoot live ammunition right next to his head and trust they make the shot perfectly.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Who said it was live ammo?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The reporting I've seen was that someone in the crowd was killed by this, just not Trump himself, that implies that whatever was fired at least was deadly.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not that I agree with the arguments here either way but... Devil's advocate.

Blanks are not a "safe" round and are deadly. They still fire a regular powder charge and an explosion still leaves the barrel, they just aren't pushing a bullet ahead of them. They will kill just like a regular round at closer ranges. An attendee dying doesn't inherently mean that blanks weren't used. Actual bullets are evidence, but we don't have concrete info of that sort yet.

[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Blanks won't kill from the distance the shooter was positioned

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Attendees died, and Trump is way too cowardly to fake this with actual ammunition. It's real

EDIT: Mind, if you want to say it's staged to rile up the right who keeps saying shootings are staged, then please, continue

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

EDIT: Mind, if you want to say it's staged to rile up the right who keeps saying shootings are staged, then please, continue

Fucking don't. Spreading disinformation to "trigger the repubs" isn't a productive strategy. Don't stoop to their level.

If your narrative requires spreading lies, your narrative is garbage.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Conservatives can call everything fake news and spreading misinformation is suddenly a problem when it happens to their own people? Tiniest violin.

[–] whatwhatwhatwhat@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stooping to their level doesn’t make us better, it makes us just as bad as them.

[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

"We go high you go low"

And when they dismantle the government and march people off to internment camps you'll be able to smile proud and say "at least I didn't stoop to their level"

Right?

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Biden, STEP THE FUCK DOWN.