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If donnie trump, lauren boebert, marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz, ron desantis and greg abbott were in Canada they would be running for the CPC. The people in Canada actually running for the CPC are exactly like this.

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[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need to counter it where it matters. You need to counter the disinformation networks that allow these people to thrive.

American news media actively tries to smash the mosaic that is Canadian culture. It's not even for a purpose, it's just for ad revenue.

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same people who own the US media own most of the Canadian media as well.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

I am painfully aware.

This is why we shouldn't defund the CBC.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The types of people you mentioned are bad for any government that they would be apart of.

They are corporate shills, hypocrites, liars, theives, and sex pests (public sex, sexual assualt, and in at least in case pedophilia accusations). Would you want people who don't thinkbthe rules apply to them anywhere near power?

[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I think the question was retorical

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

bad for any government that they would be apart of.

Oh, I think, on the contrary, that we definitely do want these people to remain apart from any real government.

(hint: joining words randomly is fun, unless they reverse the meaning of the sentence for people who read what you write)

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Oh please wise internet english major, did you understand what I said and being pedantic? Pr are you the typo police?

[–] willybe@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fortunately, our parliamentary system of government gives the citizens more power over our elected officials.

We have had government's be forced over to the opposition bench because a majority of house seats joined together to form a government.

We've also had recalls that have worked. So yes I agree the CPC represents a zany reality of govt. I don't think they would be able to pull off the same hijinks.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our system has it's own quirks that leave us vulnerable, though. First past the post in combination with our parliamentary system means parties can conceivably win a majority and make whatever changes they want with as low as 38% of the vote. Personally I think it's the right time for the NDP to push the Liberals for electoral reform. It's not the most exciting topic nor the highest on people's mind at the moment, but a move to MMP would ensure that any party would need better than 50% of the population to be behind them to do such things, at least.

[–] festus@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think the Liberals want to do electoral reform unless it's ranked ballot choice (where of course everyone's #2 choice is the centrist Liberal candidate ...) - they want to be able to govern with majorities which they'd never get under a proportional representation system.

This is unfortunately one of the frustrating things about getting electoral reform - only the winners can change the rules that made them winners, so they don't want to change them!

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree but I think Trudeau understands that we are in a dangerous time where letting a minority have majority control could do lasting damage to our society. He himself has to understand that his own time in power is limited at this point. Perhaps he can be convinced to move on this as a sort of legacy gesture.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I swear if he managed to pull that off I'd actually respect him.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

It’s because the reform party took over, the normal Cons have already switched over to the Liberals

[–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seems so. The CPC/Reform party didn’t even exist prior to 1987. They could have remained some obscure nobody party like the NDP, but yet managed to become a major contender. That doesn’t happen without someone seeing a need.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

It's marketing, promotion and communications

The conservative right know that political characters like these are not all that popular. Talk to your average Canadian and we are all pretty much in the middle of the road ... neither right and want all the wealth going to or being controlled by a few people .. nor too left as we want to be a bit selfish and make money ourselves.

The problem with the right and far right is that they want a small group of people to have all the power, wealth and control ... and most people no matter their political leaning don't like that.

Which is where marketing and a sales job come in ... much of the right and even far right have a lot of money behind them ... after all they are the ones owning businesses, corporations and companies ... so they have a lot of resources they can use to promote whoever they want.

Look at the left ... which I am in support of .. I'm NDP, always was, always will be ... we probably have just as many die hard supporters, it's just that our die hards are not wealthy, so we have no funds to support mass marketing campaigns.

It all boils down to whoever has the most money in this system gets to sway a vote ... which begs the question ... is it people that make the democracy ... or is it the money that drives the system? Is money and wealth more significant in our system rather than the voice or will of the actual people?