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[–] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 134 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For the record, the study they're likely citing was the one that tested less than 15 kids, 3 or more of which did NOT have autism, and the then-doctor permanently crippled one of them in the process of testing for the digestive-neural autism link

(The entire study exists because he wanted to discredit a vaccine to sell his own)

[–] tabris@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, following in Wakefield's steps. Good to see the grifters and charlatans don't change, but it is sad that people keep falling for it.

[–] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're likely citing Wakefield, he's been having a resurgence in US media

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[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10017995/

There have been 5 studies that all seem to show a positive link.

But way way more reseach is needed.

[–] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Gut disorders are correlated with autism

Autism is not correlated with gut disorder

That is both the research and the current scientific consensus

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Also remember that correlation isn't causation. Trust me, every autistic person in the West has heard all about how we just need to adjust our gut biome and suddenly we won't be autistic, or we just need to go vegan, or any of a thousand other wonder cures. These cures have been touted since the 1900s, and the people they "work" on are generally agreed to just have learnt to mask better because almost every "treatment", no matter how benign, is horrible to deal with.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The research shows a decrease in symptoms after the procedure and nothing more or less.

It doesn't say anything about gut disorder or why they could be linked.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Positive link? Does that mean more autism symptoms?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 117 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

What does a reduction in Autism “symptoms” even mean - We uninstall Arch?

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 62 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, you just stop telling everyone else about it.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I un-installed Arch, btw"

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Maybe more susceptibility to advertisement?

[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Uninstall Gentoo, duh

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Water no longer feels as splish-splashy

[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Can confirm. Water now feels ouch-bangey, with an occasional splat-sticky mixed in.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It could fix certain GI issues, which either autistic people are more sensitive to or are unable to communicate.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 46 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Once again, the science piles up behind my "we're just LLMs running on the mecha suit controlled by bacteria" theory

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well neural networks (the construct LLMs use) is modelled on how neurons process information. Just in incredibly simplified form.

And I'm pretty sure most scientists agree that humans are actually a colony of many different species given how we rely on bacteria to live.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago

Oh, the metaphor goes further. We're not the pilot of the suit, we're not the hardware, we're not the OS of the suit, we're the AI assistant

We speak for it with the other AIs, we get called up to handle things we don't have learned behaviors for, we analyze and provide feedback - we give advice and it feels like we're making decisions, but we're not

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We are literally 10 times more bacteria than human cells in the human body.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

"We." Are you referring to people, or is that the bacteria self-identifying as plural?

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we're going on an adventure!

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I appreciate your reference. :-)

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I think OOP might be full of shit

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree, functional programming is the future

Too bad I only do nonfunctional programming.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

This guy Fortrans

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[–] hashferret@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

FYI fecal transplants are a thing and they address unhealthy microbiomes in the body. Someone else's shit could literally save your life from a c diff infection.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trouble is that we don't know enough about it. Especially how to find a good donor.

Sorry I'm late for work, boss. I made a spontaneous intrabraccael fecal donation on the way to work.

[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So we’re just abandoning the time tested “if it’s brown, send it down” protocol?

I mean… if we can’t trust that brown poop is good poop anymore, which way is up?

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

For people with IBD or IBS, they're practically the holy grail, if the initial reports are to be believed.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Research like this gives me hope for people like my severely autistic son who has been missing development milestone after development milestone so a fear of mine is that he might eventually have to live in a group home once he's strong enough to overpower us. If a treatment like this can manage symptoms enough to allow him to live independently that would be literally life changing

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's for gut issues like crohns not anything to do with emotional regulation or communication.

Group homes are as good as their staff, interview everyone there. Visit him often. Living independently is not always for the best.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

Ehhh I should've figured info from a source like this would be woefully misrepresented

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

This shit is retarded

[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been reading research on the gut micro biome for years and all this stuff related to it's effects on the brain and overall health. We joke, but I legit don't think we're too far from pro and pre biotic enemas becoming a regular treatment

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

grab a celebrity and a venture capitalist, and spin it up!

[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 8 points 2 weeks ago

Ooh, I bet Gwyneth Paltrow would be into it!

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dream of making millions by selling Belle Delphine home fecal transplant kits.

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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Forever....

[–] ProIsh@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmmm, I thought it was a poop knife.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought it was a cum sock.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe it’s Maybelline

[–] oldfaintinggoat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

*do not try this at home

[–] dramaticcat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

I am hella indifferent to the idea of a poop sock.

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