Saw a video with a clip from a podcast last night where a guy called in because his father-in-law wouldn't apply for the FEMA money in NC because he believed Trump and his conspiracy theories and thought if he applied they would take his house. The son-in-law lives across the country and didn't know what to do, as his father-in-law is sending messages to family stating that he has no food or supplies and doesn't know what to do. But this same man said he believes Trump and would not under any circumstances except any aid from the government. They tried send him articles from FEMA and fact checkers debunking Trump's lies, but the man is part of Trump's cult and is waiting on Trump to save him.
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I don't have much sympathy or effort left for these people. They lived through the 90s and the golden age of internet scams, pop-ups, viruses/malware, they saw all the mega church pastors hit with lawsuits for scamming their followers, if they can't learn from that, there's not much else I can do.
The thing you have to remember about a cult is that nobody seeks them out, and nobody knows they are in a cult until it is to late. These are people that got caught up in something they saw someplace online likely, and once they started down the rabbit hole it was to late to go back. And the like most all cults, Trump actively reinforces that everyone outside of the cult is a danger to those inside the cult, and that leaving is to dangerous to themselves, loved ones, America. And from the outside it's easy to see they are being fed lies non-stop and nothing Trump says is true, but inside the cult bubble the lies and conspiracies are reinforced constantly, and the "threat" is always increasing.
... if they can’t learn from that, there’s not much else I can do.
Correct, it's going to take a mass therapist program to help bring these people back to reality because they have been conditioned against looking outside the cult for almost 9 years now. Trump isn't going to go away and they just deprogram overnight, this is going to be a long term issue for the US going forward.
"Don't look up."
Well, now his kids are going to get his land when he dies of starvation.
Life is hard.
It's even harder when you are stupid.
It's not hard enough for stupid people.
Well, Trump has already killed millions of people with his stupidity. What's a few more?
Harris accuses water of being wet.
Water is, in fact, not wet. Like any liquid, it can only make wet what it touches/soaks. Wetness is a property bestowed upon other things (primarily solid objects) which come into contact with a liquid, but not the liquid itself.
And, no, adding water to water doesn’t result in “wet” water— just more water.
Stop playing politics with water
Lmao
I'm focused on the future of water, not water from 2020.
Wetness is a property bestowed upon other things (primarily solid objects)
Wrong!
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Why doesn't "wet" count if the liquid is in contact with other liquid molecules?
Sounds like special pleading to me.
Wetness is not a property which can be applied to a liquid— only a solid which has come in contact with liquid.
Adding liquid to liquid just makes more liquid, not “wet” liquid.
Now, I suppose there could be rare exceptions to this— if an especially viscous liquid were able to produce a surface upon which another, less viscous liquid might make contact with, then that would result in “the surface of X liquid is wetted by Y liquid”— but, even then, the property of wetness only applies to the semi-solid/liquid surface (a property similar to a solid), and not because they, say, mixed. Mixed liquid just form new liquids, compounds, etc. not “wet” ones.
That's not a reason though, that's just reasserting the premise.
The explanation was in the original comment. I simply clarified due to your misunderstanding.
Look, this is a mix of both logic and linguistics (which isn’t always logical). Even if it doesn’t make sense to you, this is how it is. I suggest that you accept it, however, if you refuse to accept it, the next logical course of action would be to invent a new word which describes liquids touching liquids. Most would call it “a mixture“, but people like you are often unsatisfied with anything you don’t make up yourselves.
I look forward to hearing what new word you may come up with.
"That's just how it is" isn't a reason either.
To repeat: I already gave a well-defined reason in my initial comment. It’s your choice whether or not to accept it.
I suppose being overly contrarian and argumentative might entertain you, but I’m not going to indulge such childishness (or, perhaps, ignorance) further.
Water is, in fact, not wet. Like any liquid, it can only make wet what it touches/soaks. Wetness is a property bestowed upon other things (primarily solid objects) which come into contact with a liquid, but not the liquid itself.
And, no, adding water to water doesn't result in "wet" water- just more water.
This is just an assertion that wetness is a property only bestowed on solids. There is no reason given for this, and I have no basis to believe that it is true based on the aforementioned linguistics.
I refer you to the top comment: a very common English expression that "water is wet."
You’re looking for logic in human linguistics. That is your mistake.
It is what it is, and it’s simply for you to either accept or have a lack of acceptance. But that’s what wetness is, regardless of your counter arguments.
If you can’t accept that, that’s your problem. It doesn’t change the nature of wetness.
This is why I don’t argue with flat earthers or holocaust deniers. People like you can’t be reasoned with.
Nice edit.
How dare I be pedantic when you were doing it first LMAO!
It seems like if it were true you'd have an actual reason instead of calling me irrational. I guess that's just how it is though.
You sure got big mad for me asking you to explain your pedantry though. Probably because you know I'm right, huh?
I am not beholden to your standards. It’s a simple fact, which I explained clearly, and you are obviously struggling to accept that fact.
That is not my responsibility, nor is my problem.
Sure, I guess a thing you heard and repeated without consideration is a great reason. My mistake.
At least you were able to admit that you’re mistaken. But blaming others for your own unwillingness/inability to accept facts is irrational.
Ooh, facts?
Then you must have a source that explains how water is not wet? Why don't we go there then?
Because all I've seen is you pretending like you can assert whatever you want without a reason.
I pity you for how much you are struggling to accept this.
I’ve already explained it, and you chose to ignore that. Again, not my fault or responsibility, but yours.
I wish you all the best luck in your struggles.
So you've got nothing.
Thanks for admitting it!
Once again, I am not responsible for your inability to accept reality.
"Reality" being whatever you claim without evidence.
What a cool guy who corrects someone and then getting this butthurt when asked to back it up.
I guess that's just the way it is.
Your descent into madness - over the word “wet” - is depressing to watch.
I’m so sorry this is so difficult for you. Sad to see.
It's actually remarkably easy to point out your BS.
You’ve mistaken your well-practiced trolling with being correct.
Again.
I mean, isn't that what you were doing in your first comment?
No. But you’re clearly
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This is the stupidest "umm ackchyually" bullshit meme. Please stop.
Also, dirt isn't dirty.
Correct.
This might make for a good allegory for how water isn’t wet. Strange that I hadn’t considered this before, but thanks for bringing it up!