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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 5 points 47 minutes ago

I feel like every member of HHS and other agencies should agree to just scream “GET FUCKED, BRAIN WORM” any time he says anything until they are fired or he quits.

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 45 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Normally I would say mass exit with a big middle finger to the voters is the way to go here, but these guys could probably keep their jobs and the status quo by gaslighting that dumb son of a bitch.

Yes, slow walk everything. Just act like you, too, have brain worms

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 29 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If you want to see what resigning out of protest or fear from far right extremists leads to...

Look up the KKK's role in ending reconstruction, and what happened to the American South when anyone who wasn't racist was afraid to vote let alone hold position in government.

Giving up is rarely the right move, and federal employees have one of the strongest unions in America and it's comically hard to be fired unless you're a political appointee.

And that is entirely intentional and for this exact scenario.

Resigning just makes it easier for them for no reason. It concentrates the shitty employees who will go along with anything, and it shrinks the federal government when they don't try to restaff

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

it's comically hard to be fired unless you're a political appointee.

Didn't they change the rules to count many more jobs as political appointees without protections right at the end of Trump's term, only to have Biden change it back? Trump is definitely doing that again.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That still covered the very top of departments, not entire agency workforces

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ah. I wasn't aware of that. It still sucks, but maybe for the folks who are left and still protected by the union some malicious compliance is in order.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

In this scenario malicious compliance is doing your job properly and efficiently.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, stay. Occupy space. Drag your feet. Misinterpret instructions. Double and triple check them through slow back and forths. Just keep doing your real job until the idiots can get things in order through the bureaucracy to fire you. It'll probably be a while, if ever.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 21 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand why foreign countries aren't scooping up this knowledge base. The brain drain in the USA is going to be so quick under this second Trump administration.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is not a place for smart people

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 minutes ago

I fear we're quickly becoming the next Sentinel Island, but not by choice.

[–] wjs018@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I work in pharma, regularly writing and filing things with the FDA (and other agencies), and this has been a topic of conversation at work. The good news for people is that the EMA is still a thing in the EU. So, at least the large pharma companies (like the one I work for), are likely to not really change much about their quality control/processes/etc. because we will still need to conform to the EMA guidelines which are typically in line with the current FDA (sometimes more strict, sometimes less so). The real quality concern would be smaller companies that only file for products in the US. They would only need to meet whatever new FDA guidelines come into effect (if they even do, changing stuff like GMP guidance is extremely complicated and time consuming) since the US is their only market.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 points 22 minutes ago

Until Trump bans exporting medication.