"We invented democracy, existentialism, and the ménage à trois."
"Oh man... Those are three pretty good things."
this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2024
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Democracy? Explain please, i thought the concept was way older than France.
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This is not the French claiming ownership of stuff, this is shitty naming on the part of Americans who thinks all european food is from France. Or who really wouldn't know the difference between Europe and France to begin with.
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Sounds like all those others want to be French.
Je ne suis pas Francais, but I want to be!
Well, technically the French did not found Britain - they were Normans.
Who were the Normans? They were Scandinavian vikings who had been raiding France for decades. Eventually the French king decided to offer them lands (now called Normandy) in France if they promised to stop raiding and instead protect the French coast.
Meh, this is largely a debate over semantics since the mere notion of a "French people" wouldn't have made sense at the time. "Frenchness" isn't an ethnicity, it's a mix of many different peoples that mixed and intertwined over the years (celts, romans, germanic tribes, immigrants from all over Europe...) and that eventually were all brought together as subjects of the french kingdom.
Normans weren't "french" in the modern sense of the word, but then again very few people in what would later become modern France would have at that time : they all would have considered themselves "Provençal", or "Breton", or "Lorrain" who just happened to live in a Duchy that swore fealty to the king of France.
All things considered, William the Conqueror was a lord of the french kingdom, swore fealty to the king of France and spoke French, so he was no less (but no more, granted) French than any other of his peers. Whether you want to call him french is up to you but is largely an anachronism
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French fries as in they came from the French part of Belgium, maybe?
It's funny how France created all its neighbours! Britain, Russia, Italy, Spain! And proceeded to go into mortal wars with most of them!
Britain yet again something they just tacked onto near the end being Italian,German and Scandinavian before hand.
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