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Lemmy Development Update 2023-10-06 (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by nutomic@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
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Here is our regular update that explains what we have been working on for the past two weeks. This should allow average users to keep up with development, without reading Github comments or knowing how to program.

We are slowly getting closer to the 0.19 release, although there is still a lot of work left. Client developers should read this post with information about breaking changes to update their projects.

Edit: You can test the latest 0.19 code on voyager.lemmy.ml, or by installing 0.19.0-beta.8 on your server. Be sure to report any bugs on Github.

@nutomic has closed over 100 issues, most of them duplicates, invalid or already resolved ones. He also made numerous pull requests to fix minor bugs and implement small enhancements. This includes a bug fix for federation of admin actions which was released as 0.18.5. He is also changing the way HTML escaping is handled to avoid broken texts.

@dessalines is working on redesigning the join-lemmy.org website, adding the apps and instances pages. Also worked on rewriting the Docker images to use Debian as base instead of Alpine. Additionally he is adding support for new backend features to lemmy-ui (scaled search and cursor-based pagination).

@SleeplessOne1917 has implemented support for new block instance feature, finished implementing the remote follow feature, and updated 2-Factor-Auth to account for a backend rework. He also implemented some bug fixes. He has also been working on adding authentication to lemmy-ui-leptos.

Support development

@dessalines and @nutomic are working full-time on Lemmy to integrate community contributions, fix bugs, optimize performance and much more. This work is funded exclusively through donations.

If you like using Lemmy, and want to make sure that we will always be available to work full time building it, consider donating to support its development. Recurring donations are ideal because they allow for long-term planning. But also one-time donations of any amount help us.

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[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for doing these regular updates. I find them very insightful. This is turning out to be a great release, and I'm very excited.

Is there a timeline for instance-agnostic linking to posts and comments? Link to GitHub issue tracking this.I moderate a small sports community, and the lack of this feature is really impacting the user experience. We have threads for each game, but we can't sticky a post with links to the ongoing games. Or rather, we can, but anyone not on the same instance that the link is pointing to will not be logged in after clicking it, and can't comment or interact at all with the thread.

I think this feature should be a candidate for the next major release, as it severely impacts new users who aren't fully aware of how federated/instanced services work and that they are being redirected to another instance that may look the same but their account isn't on.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

In this case the problem is that I don't have any idea how this could work in terms of federation. For users and communities it is done via webfinger, but I don't think it would make sense to implement webfinger for posts.

One solution suggested in the issue is to try and resolve all links in the post/comment text, and rewrite them to the local domain. That should work though it seems tricky to parse and replace links.

[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I'm liking these periodic updates, it's really great for transparency and engagement. Prefer this compared to trolling through GitHub. Cheers

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the heads up!

[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 10 points 1 year ago

Thanks for all that you do! I donated :>

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the update, can't wait for 0.19!

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With the authentication header update, isn’t usual best practice to support both on the server side simultaneously, and set a deprecation window such that clients can update over time?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this case it would be too complicated to keep supporting the old auth format. Plus we want clients to update soon because sending auth parameters in the url is not secure. Anyway clients can support 0.18 and 0.19 at the same time by sending both old and new auth params at the same time.

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net -1 points 1 year ago

“Too complicated” feels like a cop out… there’s no question as to whether or not clients can send both, from best practice point of view, the party instilling the change should bore the burden of supporting both for some time. I cannot and do not want to change the current release train, but I hope you can take this into consideration into the future, for future breaking changes.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apparently that is mostly possible client side. Photon already supports both, and Voyager with the latest release, but with some caveats.

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 3 points 1 year ago

I’m not asking about whether or not clients can do it, there’s no doubt a dual outbound header method is possible, but rather more about general development best practices. When instilling a change, isn’t it usually best to support both states to ensure least amount of users are immediately affected, and gradually bleed those stragglers out?

[–] roanescence@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would the 2F Auth be stable after this release?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes afaik all the known problems with 2FA are fixed. It would be helpful if you test it on voyager.lemmy.ml to see if it works. Though it's possible that lemmy-ui isn't compatible yet with new 2FA api, not sure.

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The UI changes for that are on voyager. I'll have to tweak it a bit more because it doesn't play well with virtual keyboards.

[–] khleedril@cyberplace.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@nutomic Is there a straightforward description of what Lemmy *is* anywhere?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one on join-lemmy.org or in the docs is not straightforward?

[–] khleedril@cyberplace.social -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@nutomic Neither of those are available from the link you provided.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally the first sentence:

Lemmy is a selfhosted social link aggregation and discussion platform.

[–] khleedril@cyberplace.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@poVoq The first sentence where?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

On the linked website.

[–] testman@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Wikipedia is usually a good place for descriptions and definitions
Check out this article about Lemmy and feel free to make improvements to it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy_(social_network)