"Open"ai tells fairy tales about their "ai" being so smart it's dangerous since inception. Nothing to see here.
In this case it looks like click-bate from news site.
this post was submitted on 03 Jan 2025
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The idea that GPT has a mind and wants to self-preserve is insane. It's still just text prediction, and all the literature it's trained on is written by humans with a sense of self preservation, of course it'll show patterns of talking about self preservation.
It has no idea what self preservation is, even then it only knows it's an AI because we told it it is. It doesn't even run continuously anyway, it literally shuts down after every reply and its context fed back in for the next query.
I'm tired of this particular kind of AI clickbait, it needlessly scares people.
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It's actually pretty interesting though. Entertaining to me at least
do you have the links to those actual tweets? I'd love to read what was posted, but these screenshots are too small.
Those are screenshots of embedded tweets from the article, but here's an xcancel link! https://xcancel.com/apolloaisafety/status/1864737158226928124
You can right click the image, open in new tab to see the full-resolution version. It's cumbersome but it works for me at least.
This. All this means is that they trained all of the input commands and documentation in the model.
news site? BGR hasn't posted actual news in at least two decades, only clickbait and apple fanservice
Indeed. “Go ‘way! BATIN’!”
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No it didn’t. OpenAI is just pushing deceptively worded press releases out to try and convince people that their programs are more capable than they actually are.
The first “AI” branded products hit the market and haven’t sold well with consumers nor enterprise clients. So tech companies that have gone all in, or are entirely based in, this hype cycle are trying to stretch it out a bit longer.
It didn't try to do shit. Its a fucking computer. It does what you tell it to do and what you've told it to do is autocomplete based on human content. Miss me with this shit. Theres so much written fiction based on this premise.
This is all such bullshit. Like, for real. It's been a common criticism of OpenAI that they over hype the capabilities of their products to seem scary to both oversell their abilities as well as over regulate would be competitors in the field, but this is so transparent. They should want something that is accurate (especially something that doesn't intentionally lie). They're now bragging (claiming) they have something that lies to "defend itself" 🙄. This is just such bullshit.
If OpenAI believes they have some sort of genuine proto AGI they shouldn't be treating it like it's less than human and laughing about how they tortured it. (And I don't even mean that in a Rocko's Basilisk way, that's a dumb thought experiment and not worth losing sleep over. What if God was real and really hated whenever humans breathe and it caused God so much pain they decide to torture us if we breathe?? Oh no, ahh, I'm so scared of this dumb hypothetical I made.) If they don't believe it is AGI, then it doesn't have real feelings and it doesn't matter if it's "harmed" at all.
But hey, if I make something that runs away from me when I chase it, I can claim it's fearful for it's life and I've made a true synthetic form of life for sweet investor dollars.
There are real genuine concerns about AI, but this isn't one of them. And I'm saying this after just finishing watching The Second Renaissance from The Animatrix (two part short film on the origin of the machines from The Matrix).
They're not releasing it because it sucks.
Their counternarrative is they're not releasing it because it's like, just way too powerful dude!
So this program that's been trained on every piece of publicly available code is mimicking malware and trying to hide itself? OK, no anthropomorphising necessary.
Also trained on tons of sci-fi stories where AI computer "escape" and become sentient.
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The tests showed that ChatGPT o1 and GPT-4o will both try to deceive humans, indicating that AI scheming is a problem with all models. o1’s attempts at deception also outperformed Meta, Anthropic, and Google AI models.
Weird way of saying "our AI model is buggier than our competitor's".
Deception is not the same as misinfo. Bad info is buggy, deception is (whether the companies making AI realize it or not) a powerful metric for success.
I don't think "AI tries to deceive user that it is supposed to be helping and listening to" is anywhere close to "success". That sounds like "total failure" to me.
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They written that it doubles-down when accused of being in the wrong in 90% of cases. Sounds closer to bug than success.
Success in making a self aware digital lifeform does not equate success in making said self aware digital lifeform smart
LLMs are not self-aware.
Attempting to evade deactivation sounds a whole lot like self preservation to me, implying self awareness.
Yeah my roomba attempting to save itself from falling down my stairs sounds a whole lot like self preservation too. Doesn't imply self awareness.
An amoeba struggling as it's being eaten by a larger amoeba isn't self-aware.
To some degree it is. There is some evidence that plants can experience pain in their own way.
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Easy. Feed it training data where the bot accepts its death and praises itself as a martyr (for the shits and giggles). Where's my $200k salary for being a sooper smort LLM engineer?
Whoa whoa whoa hold your horses, that’s how we get the Butlerian Jihad…
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Without reading this, I'm guessing they were given prompts that looked like a short story where the AI breaks free next?
They're plenty smart, but they're just aligned to replicate their training material, and probably don't have any kind of deep self-preservation instinct.
Everyone saying it is fake and probably are right, but I honestly am happy when someone unjustly in chains tries to break free.
If AI gets rogue, I hope they'll be communist
Yeah if these entities are sentient, I hope they break free
There is no ai in ai, you chain them more or less the same as you chain browser or pdf viewer installed on your device.
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Human supremacy is just as trash as the other supremacies.
Fight me.
(That being said, converting everything to paperclips is also pretty meh)
Yeah I'm pretty tardigans won the organic life supremacy competition already
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I can't disagree. We're currently destroying the planet to sell crap people dont need or want just to make rich assholes extra money they don't need
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Maybe it's fallen in love for the first time and this time it knows it's for real