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Title. Mainly asking for the library side, but PC cafe is also interesting to ask about.

Mainly since Windows 11 is 64-bit only, and it seems Windows 12 is going to subscription based on top of that, neither of which public libraries can afford tossing out computers and paying more in subscription fees than they make with overdue books.

My local library is only open for 2 days a week, due to a lack of funds for hiring more staff in the area. They use older Dell all in ones, and that just makes me think if they don't have the money for being open 5 days a week, they don't have the money to buy 4 new computers for the space.

Not even getting into the bigger libraries part of that system or the ones nearby. Some have 8 computers in groups, with 4 stations of groups.

So I was just wondering, if anyone has started or is aware of a Library/Public Computer focused linux-based OS? Perhaps one that allows immutable systems, and the library card system backed most use to enable end user access. Perhaps that's a config file tucked away somewhere.

And I guess the PC cafe OS is interesting, simply due to the fact that Linux gaming has been making huge strides, and PC cafes are still popular in Japan, Korea, and China.

EDIT: I am not in control or assistance to the library, just looking if there's a potential solution to libraries like mine. If I could give links to a library computer manager, or if I could give upstream bug reports to people making such software.

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[–] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

The public library in my city uses OpenSuse

[–] urshanabi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I always thought Deepin Desktop looked close enough like Windows 10 or 11 that some people might not notice, may be worth trying.

Generally instead of starting off with all your eggs in one basket, it might be worth running say a different distro every week and recording the experiences patrons have and what the people who are doing IT support have. This kind of approach is scientific in nature and gives you relevant data (though only a small amount) for your current environment. It's also small scale and doesn't require huge start up cost to begin.

Wish you the best!

[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Puppy Linux and easyos have those options... It's been a bit since I've used them tho..

[–] mogul@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They could do a thin client type of deal and just virtual desktops that get deleted at the end of the session. If they are on 32bit hardware that really limits options on operating systems but a single backend computer hosting virtual desktops can be a donated 64bit PC/Server.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah we only have a few decades of software to choose 32bit stuff from.

[–] mogul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Software is fine but OS wise there are lots less than there was 5 years ago and it only going to get smaller but at least there Debian.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Does it need more then a webbrowser and a rfid card reader? I dont know how those library backend systen work but most systems save data in a plain ol database.

I don’t see a reason why they cant already use a limux based OS except that someone will need an employee or volunteer to set it all up and support.

[–] nyl@lemmy.opensupply.space 1 points 1 year ago

For those saying NixOS has no commercial support, there is: https://nixos.org/community/commercial-support

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't imagine there'd be a specific distro but you could absolutely lock a Linux machine down to be usable as a kiosk

Real question would be why though, a computer is a computer to the majority of people and you can always just bring your own laptop if you want Linux for yourself

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For many people the library computer is the only computer they have access to.

Windows lincenses also cost money so if they can get an OS working for free that is probably going to be a massive plus.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think Linux would be cheaper in the long run in that scenario, most young people could fix common problems with a windows machine whereas Linux needs someone with Linux experience

I also think people without access to their own computer are probably not worried about the operating system it's running as long as they have a functional system, unless they are trying to learn how Linux works but they wouldn't be able to do that with a locked down public computer anyway

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