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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago (12 children)

There's another alternative, which is no social media at all. There is no particular problem that it solved. If it disappeared, would your quality of life be worse in any way?

[–] arararagi@ani.social 19 points 1 day ago

We wouldn't be having this conversation though.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

I could live without all the news and stuff, and I do just ignore it when it gets too much. The ability to communicate with other people across the entire world however is something I really appreciate.

[–] trailnotfound@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Sounds great, but completely unrealistic. People have almost universally embraced social media because we're social animals. How would it disappear, short of an outright global ban?

I do love to crank ma hog with my bröthers, arooooo

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

My mom asked what she should replace FB/Insta with and I reminded her we lived decades without them so we just go back to that.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 233 points 2 days ago (55 children)

Agreed. But we need a solution against bots just as much. There's no way the majority of comments in the near future won't just be LLMs.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 75 points 2 days ago (25 children)

Closed instances with vetted members, there’s no other way.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 129 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (26 children)

Too high of a barrier to entry is doomed to fail.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Tildes (a closed garden Reddit alternative) frequently love to reminisce about the days of small forum communities. Maybe we need to bring them back.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They still exist. I’m active in one, love it.

I sometimes fantasise about a lemmy like decentralised protocol that works for old school forums.

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[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Tech Broligarchy*

[–] mspencer712@programming.dev 75 points 2 days ago (5 children)

My own “we need” list, from a dork who stood up a web server nearly 25 years ago to host weeb crap for friends on IRC:

We need a baseline security architecture recipe people can follow, to cover the huge gap in needs between “I’m running one thing for the general public and I hope it doesn’t get hacked” and “I’m running a hundred things in different VMs and containers and I don’t want to lose everything when just one of them gets hacked.”

(I’m slowly building something like this for mspencer.net but it’s difficult. I’ll happily share what I learn for others to copy, since I have no proprietary interest in it, but I kinda suck at this and someone else succeeding first is far more likely)

We need innovative ways to represent the various ideas, contributions, debates, informative replies, and everything else we share, beyond just free form text with an image. Private communities get drowned in spam and “brain resource exhaustion attacks” without it. Decompose the task of moderation into pieces that can be divided up and audited, where right now they’re all very top down.

Distributed identity management (original 90s PGP web of trust type stuff) can allow moderating users without mass-judging entire instances or network services. Users have keys and sign stuff, and those cryptographic signatures can be used to prove “you said you would honor rule X, but you broke that rule here, as attested to by these signing users.” So people or communities that care about rule X know to maybe not trust that user to follow that rule.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Guillotines are another option.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (12 children)

It might be the only path forward.

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[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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