this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2025
2275 points (99.1% liked)

Technology

60806 readers
4529 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
(page 3) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Guns are the only alternative to the tech oligarchy.

You think they can't buy, manipulate, or just crush decentralized social media? If anything they can do it easily, divide and conquer. FOSS ain't gonna free you, esp. when the largest contributors to FOSS projects are big corps.

[–] erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

so we just all buy guns and fend for ourselves? we need communities in order to fight fascism, we need to be able to organize and share valuable information with people. is technology the answer to the problem? no its not, but it is part of the answer, and to ignore that is shortsighted.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (17 replies)
[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (37 children)

I just wish we had a bit more political balance here... I'm not talking about fascists, but more people that don't blame everything on capitalism would be kind of nice...

[–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

There are a few misconceptions in your comment:

While I do agree that there are other problems like racism and bigotry which existed before capitalism (based on an answer you gave in another comment) and while I do agree these also need to be addressed, I do disagree that capitalism isn't a major source of problems of modernity.

Why?

Because the cornerstone of capitalism is to use money to generate more money in a feedback loop towards (nonexistent) "infinite money" (which is different from feudalism, roman empire or ancient Egypt which all had some sort of market without being capitalist economies).

SInce it is impossible to make infinity money, an inherent part of capitalism are the crises cycles of boom and bust.

It also makes the creation of services as an afterthought (because making money is more important) and it is also tied to the enshitfication we're seeing today.

 

I think you're calling as "capitalism" a thing that is actually "technological innovation (under capitalism)"

We're all aware of free/open source softwares

We're all aware that it is possible to develop technological innovation outside of capitalist framework (and again: Capitalism = Using money to make more (infinite) money)

almost all of scientific researches advances are because of passion of the researches instead of the greed of capitalism.

Yes... Everyone "needs" money to survive. But I hope you do agree that nobody in the world needs billions of dollars to simply survive.

for God's sake, a lot of people living in "third world" dream of earning 300 dollars a month to survive and consider that making 1000 dollars a month is a small luxury (I'm from brasil and 1000 dollars is around R$ 4000 or R$ 5000 while most people lives with R$3000 or less)

What I'm saying is that, past the required money for surviving and for having a few "luxuries", there is no need for anyone having millions or billions of dollars every month and that it would be possible to keep scientific and technological grow under such conditions because curiosity and desire for changes are part of human nature.

if it was entirely impossible for humans to develop things without being paid before, then nothing around open/free software would exist.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I wonder what else is to blame ?

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (35 replies)

I want not just decentralized

but peer to peer

like Briar, but Lemmy-style

[–] socsa@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Unfortunately, Lemmy demonstrates pretty clearly that decentralized systems are just as vulnerable to propaganda and brain rot.

[–] ShadowWalker@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So long as it is humans posting this will be a problem. The benefit of a federated system is that you can't compromise the person at the top and then everything collapses.

I just jumped on here today (from seeing this article on Reddit) but my understanding is that the advantage is that the CEO can't decide he wants to suck authoritarian cock and destroy our ability to discuss and/or organize.

(Admittedly I joined the biggest server I could find so I kind of violated that idea as well).

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Humans are vulnerable to propaganda. Lemmy's architecture is against censorship. This helps to push back against propaganda, but only so much. But at least not being censored is a big win IMO.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

1000% agree. There is no freedom but the freedom that we build together.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (11 children)

google hasn't done much with YouTube yet

load more comments (11 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›