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TLDR if you don't wanna watch the whole thing: Benaminute (the Youtuber here) creates a fresh YouTube account and watches all recommended shorts without skipping. They repeat this 5 times, where they change their location to a random city in the US.

Below is the number of shorts after which alt-right content was recommended. Left wing/liberal content was never recommended first.

  1. Houston: 88 shorts
  2. Chicago: 98 shorts
  3. Atlanta: 109 shorts
  4. NYC: 247 shorts
  5. San Fransisco: never (Benaminute stopped after 250 shorts)

There however, was a certain pattern to this. First, non-political shorts were recommended. After that, AI Jesus shorts started to be recommended (with either AI Jesus talking to you, or an AI narrator narrating verses from the Bible). After this, non-political shorts by alt-right personalities (Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, etc.) started to be recommended. Finally, explicitly alt-right shorts started to be recommended.

What I personally found both disturbing and kinda hilarious was in the case of Chicago. The non-political content in the beginning was a lot of Gen Alpha brainrot. Benaminute said that this seemed to be the norm for Chicago, as they had observed this in another similar experiment (which dealt with long-form content instead of shorts). After some shorts, there came a short where AI Gru (the main character from Despicable Me) was telling you to vote for Trump. He was going on about how voting for "Kamilia" would lose you "10000 rizz", and how voting for Trump would get you "1 million rizz".

In the end, Benaminute along with Miniminuteman propose a hypothesis trying to explain this phenomenon. They propose that alt-right content might be inciting more emotion, thus ranking high up in the algorithm. They say the algorithm isn't necessarily left wing or right wing, but that alt-right wingers have understood the methodology of how to capture and grow their audience better.

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[–] GhostlyPixel@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The view farming in shorts makes it even harder to avoid as well. Sure, I can block the JRE channel, for example, but that doesn’t stop me from getting JRE clips from probably day-old accounts which just have some shitty music thrown on top. If you can somehow block those channels, there’s new ones the next day, ad infinitum.

It’s too bad you can’t just disable the tab entirely, I feel like I get sucked in more than I should. I’ve tried browser extensions on mobile which remove the tab, but I haven’t had much luck with PiPing videos from the mobile website, so I can’t fully stop the app.

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[–] SamuelRJankis@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Instagram is probably notably worse, I have a very establish account that should be very anti that sort of thing and it keeps serving up idiotic guru garbage.

Tiktok is by far the best in this aspect, at least before recent weeks.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A couple of years ago, I started two other Instagram accounts besides my personal one. I needed to organize and have more control of what content I want to see at times I choose. One was mostly for combat sports, other sports, and fitness. The second one was just food.

The first one, right off the bat showed me girls with OnlyFan accounts in the discovery page. Then after a few days, they begin showing me right wing content, and alpha male garbage.

The second one, the food account, showed alternative holistic solutions. Stuff like showing me 10 different accounts of people suggesting I consume raw milk. They started sending me a mix of people who just eat meat and vegans.

It's really wild what these companies show you to complete your profile.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Filter bubbles are the strongest form of propaganda.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I bet thise right wing shorts are proposed and shoehorned in everywhere because someone pays for the visibility. Simple as that.

[–] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've gotten more right wing video recommendations on YouTube, even though I have turned off my history. And even if I turned on my history, I typically watch left wing videos.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

The minute I sign out of my account YouTube tries to radicalize me.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Real talk: I've been using YouTube without an account and with some ad blocking stuff installed. Based on what I'm seeing, I'm pretty sure the algorithm's datapoint for me is "He was born with a penis and is ok with that."

When I lose my better judgement and start scrolling shorts like an idiot, It is fight videos (IRL, movie scenes, UFC and boxing), auditing, Charlie Kirk and right-wing influencers, and the occasional clip from Shoresy on the basis "He might be Canadian too, idk".

It is noticibly weird, and I have brought it up to my kid who uses an account, is not what Youtube believes me to be, and whose shorts feed is very different.

We do both get that guy who opens Pokemon cards with a catchy jingle, though.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (17 children)

I'll get downvoted for this, with no explanation, because it's happened here and on reddit.

I'm a liberal gun nut. Most of my limited YouTube is watching gun related news and such. You would think I'd be overrun with right-wing bullshit, but I am not. I have no idea why this is. Can anyone explain? Maybe because I stick to the non-politcal, mainstream guntubers?

The only thing I've seen start to push me to the right was watching survival videos. Not some, "dems gonna kill us all" bullshit, simply normal, factual stuff about how to survive without society. That got weird fast.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 2 days ago

Their algorithms are probably good enough to know you're interested in guns but not right wing stuff. Simple as that.

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[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Saying it disproportionately promotes any type of content is hard to prove without first establishing how much of the whole is made up by that type.

The existence of proportionately more "right" leaning content than "left" leaning content could adequately explain the outcomes.

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[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

With Milo (miniminuteman) in the thumbnail, I thought the video was going to imsinuate that his content was part of the alt-right stuff. Was confused and terrified. Happily, that was not the case.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I see any alt-right content, I immediately block the account and report it. I don't see any now. I go to yourube for entertainment only. I don't want that trash propaganda.

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[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fresh YouTube account

change their location to a random city in the US

yeah but you're still bound to IP addresses. I was under the impression Youtube used those for their profiling

[–] otterpop@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Probably used a VPN I'd imagine, but I haven't watched the video

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