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Per one tech forum this week: “Google has quietly installed an app on all Android devices called ‘Android System SafetyCore’. It claims to be a ‘security’ application, but whilst running in the background, it collects call logs, contacts, location, your microphone, and much more making this application ‘spyware’ and a HUGE privacy concern. It is strongly advised to uninstall this program if you can. To do this, navigate to 'Settings’ > 'Apps’, then delete the application.”

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago (12 children)

Seems to be innocuous, but there's no harm in removing it. Next update, it'll be returned, so the better solution long-term will be (if you're rooted) is to use an application to freeze it, which effectively disables it and it should survive and update. If you delete the app, a new update will put it back.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't see it on the app store to remove anymore

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[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 3 points 7 hours ago

And interestingly enough my phone crapped out on this post. But at least I was still able to read the the post.

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (9 children)

It didn't appear in my apps list so I thought it wasn't installed. But when I searched for the app name it appears. So be aware.

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[–] variouslegumes@reddthat.com 28 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I switched over to GrapheneOS a couple months ago and couldn't be happier. If you have a Pixel the switch is really easy. The biggest obstacle was exporting my contacts from my google account.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

GrapheneOS — an Android security developer — provides some comfort, that SafetyCore “doesn’t provide client-side scanning used to report things to Google or anyone else. It provides on-device machine learning models usable by applications to classify content as being spam, scams, malware, etc. This allows apps to check content locally without sharing it with a service and mark it with warnings for users.”

[–] Atmoro@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

LineageOS is amazing as well. Especially since it covers many devices

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] xorollo@leminal.space 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Niko, it's your cousin, Roman. LETS GO BOWLING!

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 2 points 7 hours ago

Interestingly I don't have it on my stock samsung phone. I haven't updated it since oneui 6. Is safetycore installed by update or by GMS?

[–] Nightsoul@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you was able to find and uninstall the app with no issues

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[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Jesus thanks for posting this. Found it on my LG ThinQ.

Anyone have a fairphone? Thoughts about it?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I'd that what's killing my fucking battery like crazy lately?

[–] TheWaterGod@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious about this. I've got a Pixel 6 and noticed that the battery started going to shit about a month or so ago? I couldn't find an install date for SafetyCore, but it was listed in my apps. I've uninstalled it now. It'll be interesting to see if that was causing it.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] TheWaterGod@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't show in the app drawer, but I found it via the all apps in Settings.

Go to the Settings App > Apps > "See all XX apps". It's called Android System SafetyCore, so it should be close to the top of the list. Tap on it and select Uninstall.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Well it looks like I don't have it. Which is good, unless its hidden and unremovable. My battery app reports up to like 60% of power usage but nothing else. That means that some stupid app in the background is running down my battery for no good reason.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

you can search in your settings/app managment(im using a onplus12r though

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[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Even with the latest update from Samsung, I am not seeing this app. My OnePlus did get it with the February update and I had to remove it.

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

I'm on an ASUS and it didn't appear in my app list, but when I searched in my settings list it did. So maybe it's something similar for you.

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[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 13 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Is there any indication that Apple is truly more secure and privacy conscious over Android? Im kinda tired of Google and their oversteps.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 30 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

For true privacy you'll want something like GrapheneOS on a Pixel, with no Google apps or anything. Some other ROM with no gApps as a second choice.

Other than that, Apple SEEMS to be mildly better. I'll give you an example: Apple pulls encryption feature from UK over government spying demands

While it's a bad thing that they pull the encryption feature, it's a good sign - they either aren't willing or able to add a backdoor for the UK security services. Then there was this case. If the article is to be believed, they started working on security as of iOS 8 so they could no longer comply with government requests. Today we're on iOS 18.

Apple claims their advertising ID is anonymized so third party apps don't know who you are. That said, they still have the advertising ID service so Apple themselves do know a whoooooole lot about you - but this is the same with Google.

Then regarding photo scanning - Apple received a LOT of backlash for their proposed photo scanning feature. But it was going to be only on-device scans on photos that were going to be uploaded to iCloud (so disabling iCloud would disable it too) and it was only going to report you if you had a LOT of child pornography on your phone - otherwise it was, supposedly, going to do absolutely nothing about the photos. It wasn't even supposed to be a categorization model, just a "Does this match known CSAM?" filter. Google and Microsoft had already implemented something similar, except they didn't scan your shit on-device.

At the end of the day, Apple might be a bit more private, but it's a wash. It's not transparent and neither is Google. I like using their devices. Sometimes I miss the freedom of custom ROMs, but my damn banking apps stopped working on Lineage and I couldn't be arsed to start using the banks' mobile websites again like I'd done in the past. So I moved to iOS, as Oneplus had completely botched their Android experience in the meantime while I'd been using Lineage so I was kinda pissed at what I had considered one of the last remaining decent Android manufacturers (Sonys are overpriced and I will never own a Samsung, I hate them, I didn't like my Huawei or Xiaomi much either).

So if you want to run custom ROMs, get a Pixel or something. If not, Apple is as good a choice as Android. A couple of years ago it was the better choice even, as you'd get longer software support, but now the others have started catching up due to all the consumer outrage.

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[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

an app on all Android

not my android :)

BTW did anyone reverse engineer it? Or doing rn (I'm HTH)?

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