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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Oh we're going to get embargoed

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

I'm trying to decide what black market US goods are going to be the most profitable, asides from guns. Bourbon maybe?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago

The US does not produce much that is not available from Canada, Mexico, or Asia.

You have to go to Europe to buy aircraft.

The US is a service economy. Are you going to black market software or cloud services?

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 24 points 21 hours ago

Akin to Putin invading Ukraine, the tariffs aren’t a trade war, they’re a Stupid Economic Operation.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 334 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (29 children)

Not to mention the "Governor Trudeau" extra-dumb.

God I hate politics-by-Twitter. I'm appalled that the US is turning into a fascist country, but I'm even more appalled by how pathetic, puerile and trashy the US' new fascist overlords are. At least Hitler dressed in Hugo Boss and made speeches that enthralled people: MAGA dresses like tramps, Steve Bannon-stylee and bullies other countries like kids on the playground.

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[–] kleb@mastodon.world 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@imvii Perhaps since little donny says he does not need anything from Canada we should shut off his electric and oil now. That would be before he could effectively replace it.

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm down for it.

There is a little buzz that Trump is going to back pedal in a day or two, which would be hilarious. But I think we keep the pressure on even if he does.

None of this back and forth shit.

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[–] kia@lemmy.ca 216 points 1 day ago (9 children)

In 6 months, he's going to be talking about how Canada started this trade war.

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 166 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's basically saying it now. He is calling his current tariff "reciprocal".

[–] match@pawb.social 98 points 1 day ago (4 children)

the classic American strategy of preemptive reciprocation

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[–] CheeseAndCatsup@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It will be a shit show until Canada and the rest of the western world work out agreements independent of the US.

[–] gilogr@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

They should call it "The Free World Agreement".

[–] Tja@programming.dev 22 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Over here in the EU we still need gas and oil. I'd much rather import it from Canada than from Qatar or some other middle eastern dictatorship.

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[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

We're already doing that. EVERYBODY is doing that. every western nation is doing their best to cut America out of their trading deals. Donnie has seriously fucked America over.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 23 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Isolating a fascist power with the strongest military in the world doesn't work. Eventually they work up the balls to use it.

Every nation should be prepared for what happens when the purge of the US military and government is complete and only loyalists hold power.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

Given that there are no ideal moves in any direction, I feel that standing up to the bully is the only option on the table. They failed to do that in 1939.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And another thing. Its America's job to police this mess, they installed him either directly or indirectly. The rest of the world didn't ask or vote for this dangerous toddler.

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[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

The real problem is that Trump's supporters don't understand tariffs, and wouldn't believe the explanation anyway because to them it just sounds like Orange Man Bad.

When the US imposes a tariff on Canada, importers of Canadian goods pay the tariff to the US government. To recover that cost they raise the prices they charge American customers. So Americans end up paying the tariff. The only damage it does to Canada is that the tariff could discourage US importers from buying certain goods from Canada if they can get them somewhere else without paying a tariff. That happens in some cases, but in others Canada is already the cheapest (or only) source of a high-demand item, so Americans will just pay the higher prices - the way they're still paying jacked-up COVID prices for so many things, for example.

Millions of Americans, being too dumb or unwilling to grasp this, think these tariffs are Trump heroically saving them from the evils of foreigners who want to destroy their Freedom.

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago

Millions of Americans, being too dumb or unwilling to grasp this

Reports from people who know him, Trump is one of these people. He clearly doesn't understand the process.

β€œI’ve been in the room when it’s been explained to him, and he doesn’t understand it, but he likes tariffs,” Bolton said.

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[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 143 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Ok it's starting to feel like a game now. Can we cause American hyperinflation by a targeted tariff feedback loop?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No, because Canada's economy will collapse long before the US economy if each side just keeps increasing tariffs. What Canada needs to do is make things cheaper for Canadians, not more expensive.

Take any law related to US intellectual property and decriminalize that.

Violating the copyright on Hollywood movies? Go for it. No charge.

Something you want to do is covered by a patent held by an American? Do it, you won't be prosecuted.

Want to bypass DRM on a tractor, a printer, an iPhone, sell or give away tools to allow anybody else to do it? Feel free.

The biggest advantage of this approach is that if the US did the same thing with respect to Canadian IP, they'd have so much less to work with. The US has geared its economy towards producing IP, and then used trade deals to demand that other countries respect that IP or the US will put tariffs on their stuff. Well, clearly the US isn't holding up its end of that bargain, so fuck 'em.

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[–] EndofLife@feddit.org 61 points 1 day ago

Trump doesn't understand he's a bitch no matter what he does.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago

When you have a 25% tariff, additional tariffs really don't matter.

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