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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 99 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (5 children)

Say what you want about Apple and their motivations, we really need them to win this case. You cannot get your privacy (or right to it) back once it’s gone.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 27 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes i like Apple, sometimes I don't. This is certainly the former.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They’re certainly less-bad about this stuff than Google, Facebook, etc.

[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah but they also paid trump a fortune to clamp down on eu regulations

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 7 points 15 hours ago

Less-bad lol

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I didn’t say I like Apple or that I trust them or anything. I said we want them to win this lawsuit.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

They can win it in a way that will still benefit only them and not you.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Don't trust the corpos but Apple has a history of resisting stuff like this.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml -3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

No 👏 they 👏 do 👏 not.

Get Apple's dick out of your ass.

They literally have a history of moving data to government servers and handing over encryption keys: https://thehackernews.com/2021/05/how-apple-gave-chinese-government.html?m=1

[–] dukethorion@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

San Bernardino shooter case?

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

That's separate from what OP is talking about. The on-device encryption is decent

For data on Apple's servers (which they push icloud by anemic device storage...) Apple themselves publish that they give access to user accounts 90% of the time in the US

https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/us.html

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Ignoring the fact they already did this in China? And by the way, you have no way of knowing when your data was uploaded to the Chinese servers

https://wiki.rossmanngroup.com/wiki/ICloud

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I’m not sure how this is incompatible with what I said. What your point?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml -1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It's already gone because it's not disclosed when or why it is moved to servers where the Chinese govt can decrypt it, but I guess it depends on who you're worried about having your data

[–] micka190@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No one outside of China has their data stored there, though. Every tech company that complies with China hosts the data in China and usually makes the Chinese version of their software work differently as a result. The Chinese government isn't able to just see everyone else's data.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

No one outside of China has their data stored there, though.

  1. There's no way to tell if Apple transfers your data there
  2. Apple does not clarify how they decide when to transfer your data there
  3. You are putting a lot of faith into a system that shows no transparency

https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

This is true, but considering all the US government problems with China, if Apple does send your data to Chinese servers regardless of where you are, I’d guess governments in the US and Europe would make iPhones forbidden for all their sensitive personnel.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 12 hours ago

You know there are some of us who don’t use iCloud so you can stop assuming all of us are in this boat lol

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It’s already gone then. There’s nothing I can do about it.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 4 points 18 hours ago

bow chicka bow bow