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The author argues that the recent Congressional hearing on UFOs featured credible testimony from military witnesses that UFOs exist and the government has covered up information about them for decades. The author, a retired Navy admiral, vouches for the integrity of the witnesses. He believes society should demand that the government disclose what it knows about UFOs. This could lead to scientific advances that transform our understanding of physics and the universe. Studying UFOs could also improve international security and cooperation. The author contends that failing to study UFOs would be arrogant given how little we understand about the universe.

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[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's cool but I'm more concerned with real shit like climate change, the wealth gap, and the global rise of fascism.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if they are hiding and fighting a secret, ancient war with anarcho-aliens here to help us liberate ourselves from fascism and oppression?

That would be a pretty cool plot twist.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, but it would be almost more likely that the aliens are the ones trying to liberate us while the US goverment wants to maintain status quo lol.

[–] HumbleFlamingo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sounds like BS to me. We’re asked to believe there is an alien civilization that is so advanced that it can travel the stars. So sure of their ability they would travel themselves. However they are also somehow incompetent enough that they crash a ship on our planet? So highly advanced we can’t even fathom how they could travel so far to us, but they don’t have redundant systems?

This is political theater and a distraction. I believe there is life out there, but it’s out there, really really, REALLY far away.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And not only have they crashed, they have somehow yet to make their presence known on a large enough scale to enough people. They apparently always want to land in the desert or in the ocean, instead of where the artificial light emanates the brightest. Imagine if we somehow managed to travel the stars and stumbled upon an alien planet, and instead of landing where there were massive buildings and seas of artificial light, we landed miles away where there is nothing... it just doesn't make logical sense.

Like, devils tower is a really cool premise for close encounters of the third kind, but I think they'd be more interested in the burj khalifa (or the world trade center back when the movie came out)

[–] millie@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally, I think this whole thing is likely a distraction. That said, why would they land in the middle of a city? You think they want to cause a riot? Hundreds of simultaneous heart attacks?

If UFOs started showing up over major cities without some sort of prior contact and announcement, that'd be cause for concern. We consider it a huge breach of security to have unauthorized planes in our airspace, I'd imagine that they'd take it as good etiquette not to be zooming around highly populated areas.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with your comment is you're using our logic, culture, and military tactics to describe a scenario in which an alien race comes to earth. How do you expect them to know about these? Do you think "breach of airspace" is a galactic doctrine?

Imagine if we found large non-natural structures in say... Neptune. Why woudlnt we want to go analyze those and take samples and figure out what's going on??

[–] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would expect that we'd attempt to observe them as much as possible before interfering with them directly in order to avoid a disaster.

There's a big difference between seeing some weird looking stuff on Neptune that's ambiguous at best and seeing a planet whose night side is lit up like a Christmas tree. Casual observation of our planet from anywhere remotely nearby makes it very obvious that it's inhabited by a technologically advanced species.

Idiotic as the guy in charge of them may be, we have a massive satellite network blanketing the globe at this point. There's no way that gets missed by any species capable of interstellar travel unless it's something capable of space travel without the accompanying technological advancement we associate with escaping a gravity well and surviving the vacuum, then having the means to cross the immense distances involved to get to even the closest stars.

Major metropolitan areas look incredibly distinct from the surrounding wilderness, and all the lights are a dead giveaway.

If you manage to fly all the way from another solar system to come take a look at Earth, you definitely know that it and especially its cities contain complex life. Any showing off will likely be intentional if it's from anything more complex than something like the Voyager.

[–] DadWagonDriver@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The indictment of the most recent former president for attempting a coup is the biggest story of the century, and the timing of all the UFO news (which was all presented with NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE) is pretty suspicious, especially considering how hard young conservative men seem to be leaning into it. It’s almost like this is a publicity campaign to distract y’all from a very real issue.

[–] 2ndtryagain@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Skunkworks doesn't want you to know what they are cooking up; all this UFO business is funny to me. We have all kinds of research projects that never see the light of day and a few that won't till major hostilities break out.

What pisses me off is people needing to believe our technologies must come from aliens. Most things in both civilian and mil-tech have progressed the way everything in the past did. From playing with static electricity to the development of the first lightbulbs, from the telegraph led to wireless telegraph which then led to radio and TV. We don't need aliens to explain our tech, we need people to understand the scientific method.

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

SR-71 wasn’t acknowledged for many years, then was decommissioned decades ago with no named replacement.

And, today, I can sit down with a soldering gun and $800 worth of consumer-grade hardware and in a few hours make a quad camera drone that will do 85+ mph, with a flight envelope that would boggle the mind of an F-16 pilot in 1995.

Of course, this alien horse shit is being spun up to distract from the multiple flight platforms we are running and/or testing, based on bleeding-edge human technologies.