For context: I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD and I somehow need to get an app on there that only has a flatpak release
Hope you don't find out about Snaps
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Flatpak is love, flatpak is life.
its barely legible but isnt that still less than a gb? where you you even get an 8gb ssd? why would you use one outside of some specialized embedded application that shouldn't even have a desktop interface? and even then why not something lighter than kde or gnome
where you you even get an 8gb ssd
I bought a Fujitsu thin client for 30β¬, and I decided to spend the 5β¬ extra to get one with a drive (making it 30β¬ total.
why would you use one outside of some specialized embedded application that shouldn't even have a desktop interface?
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I have way too much free time
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I have no money
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Originally it should only have been a minimal void Linux install so it can connect to my local server via RDP. But I just realised that that futro s920 with 4 1,5ghz cores is actually way faster and more reliable than my 4th gen Intel i5 will ever be
and even then why not something lighter than kde or gnome
I ssh'd into the PC. It runs xfce4, and it is just made to display shortwave (an Internet radio player) in full screen on a cashier terminal screen that I ripped from the terminal assembly. I just needed the cheapest thing to run shortwave on so my father has an Internet radio, since the other 2 options were
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buy a big ass Antenna for his normal radio, or
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buy a used Internet radio for 200β¬ (this way it only cost about 90β¬), wait until its Server is shut down, and then somehow with a mix of wireshark, dns logging, and pure luck somehow locally rerout the domain that the radio tries to connects to, figure out what kind of json file I need to host on my local server in order to make it refresh it's database of Radios, and maintain these IPs forever.
also, please note, the image is in no way connected to this project, it just reminded me of it
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I liked Snaps and Flatpaks fine when I first started using Linux, and the distro I was on treated them the same as software in the repo, but I eventually started to avoid them because of the space they take up, and because I got tired of constantly having to mess around with permissions to try to get things working. Now, if something isn't available in rpm, I use AppImage or a tarball, or compile it myself.
- rpm: signed payload and manifest with signatures in bill of materials that integrates and coordinates with system db and allows enterprise content review and validation at every step and/or easy back-out.
- flatpack/app image - none of these.
Anyone interested in build, security, deployment, should have issue with that. But look at its corp champions and discover their motive.
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flatpak install/update <package name> --no-related
there problem solved
Yes absolutely true, but also no.
https://gitlab.com/TheEvilSkeleton/flatpak-dedup-checker
For me it is 32GB of data with deduplication, and only like 25GB with BTRFS compression.
So while still way too much, not really a problem if you have a reasonable 50mbits+ internet connection and a 200GB+ SSD
There should still be waay more force. There should only be one runtime (FDO) and KDE and GNOME being extensions to that. Not sure if these perfectly dedupe though
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and 8gb ssd? at that size it's surely a removable 2242 ngff drive, it's like 10$ for a 64gb one. you're quite literally throttling your systems read/write speed, cause ssds want at least 20% free to manipulate files.
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btrfs compression and dedupe. Saves a lot of space
Just build from source
I actually like flatpak. The only issues I have are with GTK apps which I try not to use anymore.
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Build it from source them.
Ok dude, you should have looked at the minimum requirements for a linux install before buying that thin client. I checked debian and fedora and both had minimun requirements exceeding 8gb for graphical environments. Read the manual, stop bashing a tool you arent using right. Flatpak works great for almost every use case, especially if you learn how to tweak the sandbox.
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you probably have thrice that in your yay/paru or emerge cache
i know what you are.
I absolutely hate all this container shit, for my uses. That said, they make sense when you need to sandbox applications for whatever reason, but most of those uses seem like they would be better served with VMs.
TONS OF SAME STUFF
every time:
downloads a different version of KDE from 2014
Storage is cheap, I don't care at all as long as I can easily install it without having to go online to search for missing dependencies in the correct version.
My only problem with Flatpak was when I tried to install an IDE and made it use Podman or Docker and the container thingy caused problems.
"x is cheap" is not the greatest take imo. it's cheap until you just so happen to not be able to afford it. what now? better give me an income for the price in storage. not talking about flatpak specifically.
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