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That is what I wonder. Don't know about you guys, but I feel like a European patriot, even though this maybe does not make sense to some.

Being a true European patriot means to me: caring about all of the freedoms we have, our social democracies, is to value the open pluralist societies we developed since WW2, wanting to protect what the reactionaries want to take away from us, stop those who want to lock us all up, back in the small closed-minded nation-states we all come from, which will ultimately lick the boots of either US or China/Russia.

They are well organized, but what is the organization, the movement that fights against this ongoing attack on our shared values and mode of existence?

The post-WW2 Europe is an oasis of bliss in a world which is on fire, and we are all under attack. How can we fight against this destruction from the inside as well as from the outside ?

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[–] termaxima@jlai.lu 41 points 1 week ago (7 children)

100% unconditional intolerance for fascists. You can’t give them a millimeter or they’ll take the entire country.

I suggest watching Thought Slime’s recent video if you wish to know how to effectively counteract fascists.

The gist is that you shouldn’t try to argue with them, they don’t care about reality. Don’t let them look reasonable by arguing as if they were, insist on pointing out they’re being assholes (which they are) and that anything they suggest is so obviously wrong it doesn’t even need to be explained why it’s wrong (which is true).

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[–] cocolowlander@feddit.nl 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's important to recognize an individual can not move a mountain, so it's important not to get discouraged because you do not see tangible progress nationally. All politics is a grinding trench fight to wait for an opportunity to enact laws.

With that said, the very minimum thing any citizen should do is vote. Vote in local election, vote in federal election, vote in EU election.

Next is attend your local party meeting of your preference. Just showing up and listening shows that there is interest to the politicians. You have opportunity to meet like minded people which is important for networking.

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, I think the first step is to talk about lobbyism, and who owns the media. Maybe even try to talk about how to see the world in decades not years. 🤔 but it's hard...

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's such a middling long game, though... My personal fear is that any potential long game just gives them the space to solidify their grip on the population, I think everyone needs to do/see something pretty much soon-ish to make them want to believe in the rational alternative.

We're entering tumultuous times in terms of emotional load, everyone is nearing desperation at an alarming rate. That's a dangerous playground to reach.

Edit: not that I have the faintest about what could be done, I've been wracking my brain with this question for a while.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The far right have been long-gaming the entire time. That is why they were able to act strategically and shift the discourse and ideas towards them step by step.

So yes we need to do something now, but it needs to break out of the short term thinking of "just this election", which also makes many supposedly progressive parties move hard to the right, idiotically believing they would win by copying the far-rights positions. Instead what we see is a further rise of it.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly, we need to act with the future in mind, we gotta reinforce the barricades, as it were. At the very least, and at most for the time being. And we really gotta agree upon a system. Like, any humane and empathy-driven system, it doesn't all have to be perfect in the first try. It has to be at least functional enough to buy ourselves more time for the detailing.

And we'll also have to keep in mind to pull double-duty on handling the almost literal dumpster fire heading our way, although a saner climate may be aligned with a generally sane direction from the start.

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[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Communication is key, we can take lessons from USA. Their left wing tries to dehumanise their right wing. This backfired tremendously.

So, what we should do would be simply communicate with eachother.

The part that differentiate social democracy from Marxist Leninists is that we do not try to silence people.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree, especially in the sense that the other is also part of our society. I think it also helps to remind people in the end we are all sharing the political system that is our democracy.

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