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Is that what they're doing by releasing one vehicle in a couple of US states and now another in a different country? I think your take is pretty extreme.

For decades, they had been one of the only companies to electrify their vehicles with numerous hybrid options. There doesn't have to be only one single alternative to ICE engines. We can build and develop multiple things in unison.

Kind of? Hydrogen can be environmentally friendly, but EVs have big advantages:

• Creating and burning hydrogen is way less efficient than EVs (almost an order of magnitude)
• Hydrogen is much cheaper to create in environmentally unfriendly ways (using natural gas etc.)
• Unless we have massive overproduction of power, the additional energy can be better used to de-carbonify other processes with larger impact

How do you figure? Everyone who doesn't live in big cities has the ability to charge an EV overnight, or in half an hour when road tripping. Absolutely none of them live within hundreds of miles of hydrogen refueling station.

Is faster, but with modern EVs it’s really not a problem.

Depart home with 100%, drive for 4 hours, stop to grab an meal and use the facilities and the car is finished before you. Modern EVs take 15 minutes to go 20-80% charged.

Hydrogen is 3x less energy efficient than a battery electric vehicle. It certainly has use cases, but it came 20 years too late for light vehicles.

The extremes always look silly. Take for example the little dick energy of a big lifted pickup with tiny wheels blowing coal.

Where the fuckcars folks are correct is that many many car drivers claim they NEED some monstrously fast, big, powerful, etc vehicle and to drive too fast, take up lots of room, crush people, look “cool” etc to go a few miles to buy some milk.

Any rural town with a speed limit near a school knows that when people get into their cars a lot of excuses for why they need a car become armor for why they need to be allowed to drive like dicks.

I don’t think we’d see fuckcars have nearly the staying power if those people were driving sensible vehicles at sensible speeds and didn’t claim priority over every piece of road.

yeah even as someone that really likes PT I think the fuckcars community is a pretty bad community that just simps for the new shiny thing rather than talking about things that actually improves PT.

Still, suburbia should stop being subsidised and more transit oriented systems should be built.

You've basically just summed up Lemmy.

And the death. Don’t forget the animal and human cost of everyone having a car.

usually produced using fossil fuels, using inefficient production methods that waste electricity

Well, it's either one or the another. While the energy loss is relatively high when using electricity, it's not a problem when you have an oversupply of renewable energy, actually it's even beneficial as it provides a storage for otherwise lost energy.
But regardless of the production, it generates no pollution when consumed by a vehicle. You know, like clean air in cities.

And of course, hydrogen won't solve tire pollution nor associated noise (albeit I guess it should be more silent that fossil fuel one) but it's still environmental friendly compared to what we have now.

Sprawl itself is also pretty terrible for the environment.

And it's hard to build sprawling towns that don't rely on cars, and hard to build dense towns where everyone drives everywhere.