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Cross-posted from "Nina going off today" by @seahorse@midwest.social in !antifascism@midwest.social


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[–] shaggy@beehaw.org 8 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Educate me. I mean this with no hostility, and I'll be honest about the fact that I'm not an American and am seeing this from the outside. I'm not attacking anyone and I'm not defending any one stance, because I'd like to be educated and I'm not confident my news is giving me the whole picture.

Educate me.

Here's what I hear.

  • American troops (including marines) have been deployed without the governor's consent (this sounds terrifying)
    • This has been temporarily suspended because it was a hasty move and requires the governor's consent
  • If this turns violent then it can be considered an insurrection (or meet whatever terms required to be considered) and the insurrection act can be invoked (this sounds terrifying) (why would you encourage violence in this circumstance?)
  • I get how pacifism can be the wrong move in some circumstances, but this post sounds like it came from people wanting to stir the pot. And that's exactly what Trump would want, right?

Please spell it out for the rest of us. And how can I help?

Isn't this exactly what Trump would want? I may be missing the point here, and as an ally I don't mean to take anyone's energy away from far more important efforts.

Please educate me (if you can). Please fight for your rights!

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Happy caik day to ye. May a brick fell a copper!

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago

For the few ppl advocating pacifism below, seems like a good time to read this:

[–] PlagueShip@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

It has to get worse before it can get better. Violate.

[–] whalebiologist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lately people are starting to come around to ways social media makes people sick, and understanding consequences of the information age; from my experience the first casualty of this was not our attention spans, but our will to resist. Apparently just telling people your opinions on things anonymously gratifies your ego just enough without having to sign a petition, or stand outside in a line. "I'm so passionate about this subject I spend every waking moment talking about it online.; uh yeah I can't make it to the protest sorry, It's like a 30 minute drive and I have work in the morning."

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[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago

Feel like they're ignoring the fact that these massive protests are a sign of contention and the point is to not devolve into complete violence. We do need to make it harder for him to convince others that we are not unruly people, but people protesting actual grievances.

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