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I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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[–] Impassionata@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

the universalizing ideology of feminism for men is incoherent

and if you react with anger to someone, me, stating this fact, that feminism is and ought to be for women, you're part of the problem, shut up.

feminism is full of lessons on how feminism helps women, men should read feminists

but it's stupid to expect feminism/feminists to advocate for men's issues

and it's insulting to ask men to believe that all they have to do is be good feminists and they'll get what they need.

if you're a man and you want to write about how actually all men need to do is understand patriarchy, seriously shut the fuck up.

if you're a woman and you want to write about how actually feminism is good for men, seriously shut the fuck up:

stop centering a tool for helping women, feminism, stop centering women, when men is the topic. do you understand? can you understand? the topic is men.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (15 children)

A good politic should not be sold.

People should chose it by themselves because that's the best thing for them.

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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

One thing that would probably help a lot is more progressive rolemodels who actually go out proselyzetizing, i.e. a more direct progressive equivalent to the likes of Andrew Tate. Though IDK how to actually make that kind of thing big, the fascist tech bros who rule silicon valley will surely suppress it even if it was gaining some momentum.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I had a feeling this post is race bait. Apparently nobody actually read the body anyways and are responding to the title.

[–] IloveyouMF@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

How is that post wrong ?

How is anything I have said wrong.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

People gravitated twoards progressive policies after the great depression, before the cold war.

The cold war was the first time the US made it legal to use propaganda against its own citizens

So basically, people will support progressivism as long as they are educated and don't have their brains raped by neo-religious and capitalist propaganda from childhood.

It would also help if men weren't the "target" of every liberation movement.

When you grow up learning everyone thinks you are racist and sexist because of the way you look then that's real bigotry.

Men don't get sympathy, neither do whites from non whites.

Starting there would be easier than stopping the propaganda

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