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[–] pfizer_dose@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

And I'm assuming anywhere else that microsoft operates (the entire world) would be the same too, no? I don't know why this rhetoric would be specific to the EU.

Well some of those countries are part of 5 eyes, 9 eyes, and 14 eyes

we'd just cancel their trademark then

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It was the same for Biden, why did no-one care then?

[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah I wondered the same thing. That cloud act went into effect in 2018. Haven't seen anyone try to change it in the last 6 years

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 173 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There's no telling if that hasn't already happened. Europe needs to drop Microsoft ASAP.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 102 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Microsoft said this, but this likely applies to AWS and GCP too.

[–] Gumus@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Check out Hetzner, a German cloud provider. Established, reliable and way cheaper than AWS.

I know migrating is nigh impossible for most large apps, but creating a new one on AWS/GCP/Azure is so shortsighted.

More people need to know about alternatives.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 40 points 1 week ago

~~Europe~~ Everyone needs to drop Microsoft ASAP

FTFY

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Canada, too. For the last two years, Canada has entrusted sensitive statistical information to Microsoft. We should be treating MS with the same skepticism we currently reserve for Huawei.

[–] comador@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Germany and a handful of other countries have been moving to Linux over the past decade. Betting the rate of uptick speeds up now though.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I thought gdpr forced companies to store data securely in the eu. Are they saying they'll transfer that data to the us to give Trump access, cause that's a gdpr violation and should result in fines and eventual removal from the eu market.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

There are provisions. I don't remember the exact name of it, but basically, the US says "yah, these business are legit ok, you see?" and the EU is like "oh, ok, deal". This includes the big providers and a handful of others, obviously.

And yes, it is a farce.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

It's still on their servers. They just give government access to data.

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[–] comador@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 week ago

My assumption for many years now has been that the answer to any question involving MS giving access to your data is "yes."

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How is that news? The CLOUD Act is law since 2018.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm guessing the admits part and of course Trump is the current (quite jutified) bogeyman.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Continuing to do business in the US after the CLOUD act already implied enough.

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[–] lennee@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

suck my arch btw

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

well...... there is self-hosting too

[–] kleingartenganove@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As an EU citizen, I don't find the idea of the US government having access to my data nearly as frightening as the idea of my own government getting into my accounts.

[–] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What if the US decided to share info about the data on your accounts to your government?

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

isn't this part of how the [insert number] eyes works?

[–] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

Pretty much, basically the country’s involved will share loads of intelligence with each other and data will be a big thing they’ll share.

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