this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2023
90 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

39562 readers
300 users here now

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.

Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

On the flip side, this also means users have the option to have a cleaner, less cluttered interface.

Full text:

[AUGUST 8, 2023] A new viewer experience that better corresponds to your YouTube watch history preferences

One of the benefits of having YouTube watch history on is that it enables YouTube to provide video recommendations you may be interested in; however, we know some prefer to clear and turn off your YouTube watch history. Starting today, we’re changing how you see recommendations on YouTube, based on your Watch History settings:

Starting today, if you have YouTube watch history off and have no significant prior watch history, features that require watch history to provide video recommendations will be disabled – like your YouTube home feed. This means that starting today, your home feed may look a lot different: you’ll be able to see the search bar and the left-hand guide menu, with no feed of recommended videos thus allowing you to more easily search, browse subscribed channels and explore Topic tabs instead.

We’re rolling these changes out slowly, over the next few months. We are launching this new experience to make it more clear which YouTube features rely on watch history to provide video recommendations and make it more streamlined for those of you who prefer to search rather than browse recommendations. You can change your YouTube watch history settings at any time based on whether you prefer us to provide video recommendations or not.

top 27 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Neato@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago

I'm confused. Was anyone really considering that Youtube didn't keep a log of what every account watched even if their history was off? Being cynical, this seems to only add functionality: removing recommendations.

[–] chameleon@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess a CEO opened the YouTube frontpage while logged out and went "what is this shit".

But seriously, this seems like it's a good thing overall. The "default"/empty history algorithm recommendations are truly, truly horrifying more often than not. It's almost entirely low-quality clickbait and I can't imagine many people actually appreciate it like that.

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And after three or four clicks, you’re immediately stumbling through horrible right wing ragebait

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or spoilers after spoilers if you search up some media you are interested in. I hate those youtubers so much who put the spoilers right in the tile and thumbnail.

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

It’s pretty scummy behavior

[–] Snapz@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago

Good. Now, extending this logic, if I have ZERO WATCH HISTORY of shorts videos on my account, then... STOP CLOGGING MY SUBSCRIPTION FEED WITH SHORTS!!!!!!!!!

Don’t threaten me with a good time

[–] Gbagginsthe3rd@aussie.zone 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does anyone else like turning history off just so they can see random new stuff?

Sometimes I use Youtube in a private browser just so I can actually be exposed to new information and channels.

Its so annoying that the algorithm is always trying to pigeon hole my feed (facebook and spotify are the same)

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago

Sounds like a positive to me. One of the worst things is looking up content for a game or tv/movie show you're interested in then getting suggested similar content that increases the chance of spoilers due to people who put it in their thumbnail or titles.

[–] TheCompassMaker@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

Even if youtube wasnt already recording watch history under the table, all the data that youtube needs to generate meaningful recommendations is already there in my subscription list.

[–] vd1n@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Dameoutlaw@artemis.camp 5 points 2 years ago

I wish, the content needs to get much better. I wish some good YouTube channels would also upload their videos to PeerTube

[–] anotherlemmyuser@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

It's okay with me, I don't rely on personalised algorithm anyway. Find what I need and off I go.

[–] davehtaylor@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

"Either help us feed the algorithm, or we will make your experience worse"

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

This seems very confusing going into the comments, because it doesn't sound like the feature would actually work without enabling this, and it's more or less curbing the feature when you don't have anything to go on.

It sounds like if anything it's reducing it's presence until you've actually used youtube, and having it enabled is the normal state we're currently in.

[–] kresten@feddit.dk 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ptsdstillinmymind@lemmy.studio 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is what happens when you let VCs and capitalists into a corporation. They will screw over there families for just another dollar.

[–] thingsiplay@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

@soyagi I use YouTube mainly with Subscription (137) view anyway, with disabled history. I'm fine.

[–] NYPariah@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago
[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

So by keeping all my google history's off I now get the simple search UI I've missed since Melissa Meyer left (albeit on Youtube instead of Google search)? Can I sign up get this rolled to my account faster please?

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So… How do I enable this feature without deleting my watch history. I just want to be able to tell what vids ive seen when I’m popcorning through a channels back catalog.

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago

To avoid recommendations, I just use invidious.

[–] CosmoVerde@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Isn’t this how it already works? I’ve had watch history off for a few years now and the only thing that influences my recommendations are new subscriptions; which I’m totally fine with. (I don’t thumbs up videos)

I might not want to watch everything on my home page but it’s very spot on for me.

[–] StorageAware@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has already shown up for me and I don't really mind. The only thing I do on YouTube now is look up a creator and watch a video I want based on my Newpipe feed.

[–] millionsofplayers@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is the homepage just a search bar or something?

[–] StorageAware@lemmings.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yep, basically all the space that was occupied by video thumbanails is now empty with a graphic explaining why. I would attach a screenshot but I no longer seem to have that graphic anymore and it's back to normal.

[–] miniu@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I've switched to watching youtube from my rss feader anyway