Maybe I’ve been on lemmy too long. So confused on who liberals are anymore.
this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2025
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it comes down to capitalism vs socialism.
progressive + capitalist = liberal
progressive + socialist = leftist
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Liberal means you support capitalist rule over society, and also their preferred model of governance (bourgeios parliamentarism / capitalist dictatorship) as being "superior" to any alternatives, and especially the existing socialist alternatives.
Also since this model was first adopted by three colonialist western countries (UK, US, and Netherlands) in the 1700s, and adopted by most of western europe shortly after, it mostly coincides with a strong belief in white / western supremacy, as being the only "legitimate" form of governance.
The best book I could recommend here, is Losurdo's Liberalism - A counter history.
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Liberalists believe in a secular ideology where all humans are equal but white people are the most equal.
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There appear to be a vast number of iberals who are indeed raging angry by the murders, represented by people wearing the Liberal badge and not reported and not reflected.
No elected liberal leader has decried this ongoing genocide. Every single one supports Israel, and other settler colonial projects just like it. Liberal countries have been the main perpetrators of colonialism in the modern era, so this is nothing surprising.
Have to upvote you on this truth
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