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[–] Totallynotlame84@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You think China cares or enforces other countries’ patents?

[–] pahurricane@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I would tell them, but I don't think it will stop most of them. Just look at how many unlicensed products you can find on Alibaba out in the open.

[–] Infamous-Method1035@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Hahahahahhahahahahaa please tell us you don’t think China gives a flying fuck about stealing IP.

Best thing you can do is keep your patent quiet and make your money as fast as you can before someone steals it. I can absolutely guarantee that if you sent a good idea to China for manufacture there is a mirror of it being sold in every market you can’t reach already, and it will enter all your target markets as soon as your IP is diluted fat enough to have no value in court.

[–] Some_Notice_8887@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They will steal it anyways patents don’t protect you from reverse engineering

[–] eldowns@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Also remember that a patent does prevent someone from copying/stealing your idea. It just gives you ammo to sue them with. You still have to chase them down, which is expensive.

[–] EsR37@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You have a patent in your country not theirs lmao

[–] vgoodiez@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

News flash. They don't care.

[–] beetworks@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Is your patent in China? No? Them they can and will take it and make it (if it sells).

[–] Biking_dude@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You could hire Chinese legal representation and get a Chinese patent. Or, use literally any other country in the world for manufacturing so you have to worry less about it.

[–] SaleLore@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Telk them. Won't hurt

[–] TheOracleofTroy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Patent? Lol.

[–] stairattheceiling@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Lololololol

[–] simster2142@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If applicable to your product, you should manufacture its components across a range of independent factories and then assemble the product in your own country. (Many companies already do this)

China has been, and is currently living through a cultural revolution which has upheaved moral values and trust. A culture based on extreme profit motives, fraud and failure to promote individual entrepreneurial success will not be deterred from intellectual theft.

However, lucky for you these same ethical issues can also make for an exceptionally vicious and competitive bid/tender process between factories for your business.

The disadvantage of manufacturing a product in China can also be the biggest advantage so make sure you take advantage of their business culture if you take the risk of manufacturing there.

[–] WrongEinstein@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Are we going to tell OP about Santa and the Easter Bunny?

[–] bytepursuits@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

do you hold this patent in China and India? if not - noone will give a damn.

[–] iCyou1213@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Use different manufactures for different parts , assemble in the US, best way to mitigate this issue.

Or whatever country you’re based out of.

[–] theantnest@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] KareemGreen@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No they'll steal it more

[–] gamblingwanderer@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

OP, I specialize in sourcing from China for us clients. Do not send your product details or drawings to a manufacturer you meet on alibaba because they're are no factories on alibaba. They are all marketing companies aka trading companies, as such they have the skills to market and sell any product they see fit. Instead, you want to deal directly with a factory. Factories don't market and sell, they manufacture and the only thing they care about is keeping they're production line busy 24-7. Please please please do not send your proprietary designs to anyone on alibaba. Find a friend from China who knows factories for your product. You can dm me as well if that route doesn't work. Good luck and remember, there are no actual factories on alibaba and they will steal your product if its successful.

[–] ivanecoz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Do you really think it’s worth trying? lol

[–] Childfreerules@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No hire an attorney

[–] stacksmasher@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

There are no intellectual property rights in China. Just ask GM lol!! Lookup GM vs Cheri Automotive

[–] seobrien@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Patents only apply in the countries where recognized. And if you can't afford to fight it out in court.

Good job getting your patent. China doesn't care.

[–] DrunkenGolfer@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They’ll steal it anyway.

[–] dzyamik@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Don't work with China, they don't care about any patents

Moral of all these stories. Stop using China. Many other parts of the world to manufacture in.

[–] Lower_Zookeepergame@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Unless China was a market for you to sell into, why do you specifically care if they copy it. Patent it in the countries you wish to sell it into, and then this restricts them from being able to import the copied item into those countries. If you discover they are importing it, you report the patent infringement to customs and border security. They then impound all Goods from that manufacturer with the same HS code and sometimes all goods completely while it is investigated, which can take years. Chinese companies are very wary of this as it can destroy their business and ability to sell other products into Western markets.

If the fear is it is easy to change enough to get around the patent why bother at all and then it is just a pricing, marketing and service to support product battle.

[–] ubercorey@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

All you can do is manufacturer parts in separate countries with shell companies and assemble on site. Anything else, and it will be stolen.

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