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For now my server doesn't have very important data most of it are your "Linux isos" I can just download again and I'm thinking of starting to move my file and photos to the server but in afraid. What if I get a ransomwarei don't realize and all my backups get encrypted too? Or if the backups are corrupted and my disks breaks? But also I'm afraid about cloud because I've seen some posts about people getting their google accounts closed without notice for breaking TOS (maybe they did something wrong maybe not).

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[–] evoseedbox@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Borg incremental and dump in gdrive encrypted

[–] ElevenNotes@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

3-2-1-1-0 and you have 99.9999% covered. I replicate all backups between four physical locations, doesn't get more overkill than this. For personal use I even have a backpack with external HDD in it, that syncs the most important data every day.

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[–] therealSoasa@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Meh you don't really lose your data , do you. I mean , we all know where it is.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The key is to do regular backups to a different location, and to keep previous versions as read-only backups for a certain timespan. If something happens to the local data you can just restore from the remote backup, and also pick an unmodified previous version in case of a ransomware attack.

E.g. I do a daily encrypted cloud backup of everything that can't just be downloaded again, and the backup provider keeps previous versions for 30 days.

[–] EspritFort@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

For now my server doesn't have very important data most of it are your "Linux isos" I can just download again and I'm thinking of starting to move my file and photos to the server but in afraid. What if I get a ransomwarei don't realize and all my backups get encrypted too? Or if the backups are corrupted and my disks breaks? But also I'm afraid about cloud because I've seen some posts about people getting their google accounts closed without notice for breaking TOS (maybe they did something wrong maybe not).

What you're describing sounds like general anxiety. So if you're asking whether I'm suffering from anxiety, then no :P There are risks in life and precautions you can take against them. I'm just as "scared" about losing data as I am about getting run over by a car, that is to say not at all. Both scenarios are horrible, both can be reduced in risk by employing reasonable countermeasures and behaviors. Beyond that it's out of my control so there's no point in worrying.

The only hazy variable in this kind of contemplation is: Am I knowledgeable enough to properly gauge the risks and know the "reasonable countermeasures"? And if you're asking "Do you know enough?" or "Do you spend enough time learning new things?" then my answer would always be an emphatic "No!" because there's no such thing as enough knowledge and competence.

[–] he-tried-his-best@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Only thing dear to me is my family photos and videos over the years. They’re backed up to two different cloud providers. Everything else is ultimately downloadable.

[–] speaksoftly_bigstick@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Not as many years ago as I would prefer given my professional experience, I was running a lot from home. Most of it for myself to learn more (so nothing my home itself was dependent on) but a percentage of it was for storage of pictures, home videos, digitalized documents, emails, etc.

I ran my own exchange server for years (utilizing my own TLD that I bought in 2008).

I was in the process of migrating data from a couple of older hosts to the newer ones I had setup in the garage; basically from two cobbled together Dell T series poweredge servers in my hall closet to a small stack of R series poweredge in a 42u cabinet rack in the garage.

My whole stack was setup across the two hosts including backups from veeam from one to the other and copies.ofnthe backups stored on an external. Due to the size of the backups and where I was on my life financially, anything hosted up in cloud space was just a little out of my budget. Anything I could afford was suspicious at the time.

This too long story ends basically by me not paying attention to what I was doing and ended up destroying the raid on both of the original hosts without having finished moving all my data.

I lost years of emails from my exchange server, all the pictures and home made videos of my daughters life from birth to that point in time, and my backup data.

All from my own mistake(s).

I did everything I was "supposed" to do to keep stuff protected until I messed it up.

My daughter passed away this year in February at 16 years old. I'd give anything to have those pictures and videos back.

My point is, you can plan and execute and throw money at it if you're able. And you'll likely be fortunate enough to never really lose anything that's valuable to you. But even planning and implementing, you can still lose stuff just by oversight and human error.

That's the game, man. 🤷

[–] SceneAcceptable9176@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m really sorry to hear about your daughter.

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[–] Tiwenty@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to regularly backup my photos to an external drive, but it'd still be in my house. Recently I just opened a cold object storage bucket at OVH and rclone to it every night. So even if they fail, the chance they fail at the same time as I do is pretty minimal. And I pay like 0.75€ a month for ~400GB

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[–] ratcodes@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

not scared. it's super unlikely all of your backups will fail at once assuming they're not all the same method attached to the same hardware

[–] ice-h2o@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Have multiple copies of the data. Use snapshots, they don’t get encrypted by a ransomware because they are read only and can’t be accessed via samba or nfs. It’s only a problem when the attacker gets root access to your NAS. Use a cloud provider like backblaze and backup your data encrypted. If you are really scared that ransomeware data will overwrite your backups use 3-2-1 and Grandfather-father-son backup strategy. But all this comes at a cost.

[–] DayshareLP@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I run Proxmox VE and Proxmox Backup Server on two machines at the same time. I pull the main backups from the main machine, where all the Vdisks are to the second one. Until now it works like a charm. The third of site machine is in the making

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