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[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While it sucks at least they say adb install will continue to work (for now)
https://developer.android.com/developer-verification/guides/faq

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can we update without adb? If updating all the apps also require ADB, this will get annoying fast.

If EU doesn't step in, I'm moving to custom ROM

[–] cole@lemdro.id 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shizuku is about to get more popular, lol

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[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Sounds like I'll be using a "phone" with Ubuntu Touch or similar with a VoIP SIP app running. As long as I have 4G/5G data, that'll probably work as well as anything I'm willing to use.

For me, this has the added bonus of being able to configure my VoIP service however I want. Mine lets me do custom menus and such, easier to filter out robots that way.

Let's see if I have an old Pixel 3a around...

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

They need more donations and bug reports!

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[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Build up graphene and Linux phones!

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[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My 320 EUR Pixel 7a is running GrapheneOS.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's just Android. You're as subject to this as anyone else is, if not moreso.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is an a degoogled by default open source Android fork. I am writing this on a Pixel tablet running GrapheneOS with zero Google software sources on it. Google Play has no power here, and is running sandboxed if you choose to install it.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

One day you'll wake up to the news that Graphene is ending support at a certain Android version because they can't get sources.

Your privacy depends on Google allowing Android to be open. It isn't anyone's decision but theirs.

It ain't today. Relax.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

Obviously Google can stop releasing upstream sources and they could also prevent bootloader unlocking on Pixels, which would limit GOS to legacy support, unless somebody can maintain an Android fork and also a sufficiently open and secure hardware base. Which is a major effort.

The alternative is to move to a mobile Linux or just Linux on a WLAN tablet or other portable device. With a MiFi router or a tethered phone.

If that is not an option, I will rise up from the comfort of my couch and go back to using Linux desktops. Which I never stopped doing.

If that's not an option, there are still books.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah, if devs stop developing apps for android. It won't matter if you use android without play services.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

No. It's removed downstream. Anyone with a degoogled Android phone is not subject to this.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

!rossmanngroup@peertube.gravitywell.xyz

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yourβ„’

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Us: nope, I degoogled my Android phone. Good luck.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

1k? Must be in Euros or USD.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On a related note, Ive always wanted to try shoving a sim card in my Linux laptop and use a voIP phone line with jmp or something.

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