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    [–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

    NixOS is only bad when you learn to fly, mostly because not enough docs. But when you are all bruised up, it's a joy through and through.

    [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 days ago

    I'd rather teach my grandma to install gentoo than ever touch nixOS again.

    [–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Nixos has been extremely easy to get working for most stuff. If you stray off the trail at all, it gets complicated. Possible! But complicated for my little brain.

    [–] Johanno@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Development seems to be a bit of bite in the ass.

    Intellij does have a package but for some reason plugins use often some random binaries and those do not work well with nixos.

    Also getting always the right dependencies for the current project was for me difficult to learn.

    [–] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

    For my dev environment I’ve had great success combining home-manager and their integration with

    https://mise.jdx.dev/

    Sure, it doesn’t quite fit the nix philosophy perfectly, but everything is still in my home.nix file and my home directory, and and I can swap tool versions on the fly and direct IntelliJ to their locations pretty easily

    [–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 4 points 1 week ago

    Embrace the --impure

    The problem is, no one on Nix is going to stay on the trail. We are all there since we left it long ago.

    [–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    still weeks ahead of the gentoo user

    [–] msage@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I had 0 issues with Gentoo.

    And it updates in a manner of hours on 3700X (LibreOffice and Firefox are the worst offenders).

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Hmmm I was annoyed that my slow internet slowed down my arch update by 6 minutes.

    [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago

    I have very fast internet, so no waiting there.

    But fuck LLVM and Clang.

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    [–] udon@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    For everyone who doesn't have several different systems to maintain, I find the advantages of nixOS to be marginal. Sure, you can argue about atomicity and all, but honestly I don't remember ever running into a serious problem with debian either. The huge package repo is nice, but I rarely encounter an app I can't get through apt, flatpak, or as an appimage.

    At the same time, nix also has various downsides. Documentation sucks. There are two main ways to manage the system, they both pretend to be the better one, and it's super hard to even get started. That's not an issue with the technology, but just a lack of priority. Guix is much better on that end (but also comes with the same marginal advantages).

    On the other hand, debian has a stable community, with proper processes, democratic structures etc.

    This is a nice, kind of old presentation from debconf, where people discussed nix and how this could be useful in a debian context as well:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGrcLEweglg

    So, if you FOMO, don't worry. Debian and other options have this on the radar and have their ways to adapt (even if slowly)

    [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 4 days ago

    Nix-shell and nix flakes are unparalleled, I can't really live without them anymore. Hell, I even use them on my work Windows machine inside WSL.

    [–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Personally I’ve found the transition to be much more than marginal. Systems are defined not by the state of the machine itself but by the config describing it which is much more transparent and manageable. Non-declarative systems are great if you’re just running small services, are changing and experimenting a lot. Or just don’t can’t if your system goes down or bloats over the year. Declarative systems save you whole lot of management headaches especially if you are working with others, or aren’t constantly reviewing your old work.

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    [–] w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    How about installing nix on Gentoo?

    [–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

    There are people in your life who care about you too much to let you do that to yourself... I assume...

    [–] expr@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Everything has to be compiled on Gentoo, right? So would the many binary nix packages even work?

    [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 4 days ago

    They would. But if you want to do it the Gentoo way, just disable using cache in Nix, it will manually compile every package you install.

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    [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 30 points 1 week ago (6 children)
    [–] mrh@mander.xyz 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

    wonder if that anime girl image is libre

    [–] neox_@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

    GNU Guix System!

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    [–] alecsargent@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Linux From Scratch says hello

    [–] TarantulaFudge@piefed.zip 18 points 1 week ago

    Gentoo is awesome, especially if you are a developer. Every toolchain at your fingertips. Easy full stack debugging!

    [–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Real masochists: CubeOS

    For Steam games.

    [–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago

    Who hurt you?

    [–] TheShittinator@forum.guncadindex.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I keep telling myself that one of these days, surely, I'll eventually leave my comfy Fedora rpm-ostree setup, try out NixOS, and make the most of its super unique package management.

    Surely.

    [–] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Bad time to try out NixOS due to recent controversy..

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    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

    learning hurts sometimes but it's ultimatly a good thing.

    [–] drath@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I am seriously considering switching to either Gentoo or 9front...

    [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Switch to 9front, 9front, 9front!

    [–] drath@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Damn, it looks like everyone whom I told about this just wants to see me suffer. Alrighty then, see ya in... sometime. The journey sure looks rough, given that my hardware is barely supported by linux, nevermind an experimental OS from the 90s...

    [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

    I've always liked the idea of running Plan 9. I haven't had the courage to try it out though.

    [–] RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

    Gentoo isn't so bad if you're good at reading instructions and value control and customization

    [–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

    You forgot secret option 3 - I use arch btw

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