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Beeper reverse-engineered iMessage to bring blue bubble texts to Android users (techcrunch.com)

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Beeper reverse-engineered iMessage to bring blue bubble texts to Android users::The push to bring iMessage to Android users today adds a new contender. A startup called Beeper, which had been working on a multi-platform messaging

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Are their messages from their app going to show blue to iMessage users or something? Cuz I don't see why you'd need to reverse engineer that otherwise. Even then... How hard is it to spoof a Mac address or other hardware identifier that says the message came from an iPhone?

The fact this is even an issue is just ridiculous to begin with. If you give that much of a shit: Use a different god damn messenger that treats everyone the same.

[–] yukijoou@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

afaik, their while thing is that they do everything on-device, so your device is the only one with access to your messages

[–] stefenauris@pawb.social -3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

We literally shut down another app doing this last week because it was so sketchy

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[+] Fades@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

In exchange for security loss, is it really worth it?

Edit: the downvotes are very expected. You people need to lean about why this is important

https://www.androidauthority.com/beeper-app-opinion-3345142/

First, the elephant in the room needs to be addressed: security. In Beeper’s start-up guide, the first thing you see is a huge alert box: “Beeper may be less secure than using encrypted chat apps by themselves.” Fundamentally, there’s no way to fix this. To use any of the chat apps, you need to link Beeper to that service using your credentials, which is inherently more insecure than logging into the app directly. Beeper is quick to defend itself by pointing out its robust privacy policy, its ethical business practices with a user-centered focus, and its use of end-to-end encryption (E2EE). However, that doesn’t protect your credentials from hackers that could gain access to Beeper and send your grandma a message through WhatsApp pretending to be you and asking to wire $1,000 to an account in China.

More in depth: https://www.reddit.com/r/beeper/comments/13hhx9e/transient_key_retention_a_suggestion_to_solve/?rdt=61709

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What security loss, mate?

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

These: https://www.androidauthority.com/beeper-app-opinion-3345142/

First, the elephant in the room needs to be addressed: security. In Beeper’s start-up guide, the first thing you see is a huge alert box: “Beeper may be less secure than using encrypted chat apps by themselves.” Fundamentally, there’s no way to fix this. To use any of the chat apps, you need to link Beeper to that service using your credentials, which is inherently more insecure than logging into the app directly. Beeper is quick to defend itself by pointing out its robust privacy policy, its ethical business practices with a user-centered focus, and its use of end-to-end encryption (E2EE). However, that doesn’t protect your credentials from hackers that could gain access to Beeper and send your grandma a message through WhatsApp pretending to be you and asking to wire $1,000 to an account in China.

More in depth: https://www.reddit.com/r/beeper/comments/13hhx9e/transient_key_retention_a_suggestion_to_solve/?rdt=61709

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

My understanding is that this absolutely applies to their previous iterations, but not this -- there's no authenticating with your Apple ID, for example. It's sending and receiving iMessage data directly between the Apple servers and your device, now.

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