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[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 171 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Trump agrees with whomever he spoke with last because he's dumb and gullible. Its not shocking in the least.

By tomorrow Miller and Vance will convince him to threaten on his shitty Twitter to bomb New York City and he won't even notice the disconnect.

[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There is no Twitter that is not shitty.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 7 points 5 days ago

Well, truth.social is just a shitty Mastodon reskin and the other Mastodon instances are probably slightly less shitty

on his shitty Twitter

It's Mastodon though. They were publicly forced to admit that they used Mastodon and they're just not federated.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Trump agrees with whomever he spoke with last because he's dumb and gullible. Its not shocking in the least.

He agrees with whomever kissed his ass last, becsuse he is dumb, gullible, and an egotistical narcissist. If the last person he spoke to called him a deranged, tiny-dicked pedophile I am sure he would be calling for their imprisonment or execution.

[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 83 points 5 days ago (4 children)

“I think, hopefully, you’re gonna have a really great mayor, and the better he does, the happier I am, I will say. There’s no difference in party, there’s no difference in anything, and we’re gonna be helping him to make everybody’s dream come true — having a strong and very safe New York.”

Wow. Did someone give Trump a drug? Did Mamdani hypnotize him? This is bonkers.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 78 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Did Mamdani hypnotize him?

He's a 79 year old demented narcissist, and Mamdani is a smart son of immigrants from Brooklyn...

I said it the other day that Mamdani was gonna finesse trump into a reverse mortgage and buying two of the same mixtape.

It doesn't fucking take much, you just need to manage more charisma than Chuck Schumer. trump isn't hard to manipulate, it's just neoliberals never want to actually win. They want the public attention for throwing shit with trump, Mamdani wants to get shit done.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 21 points 5 days ago

I said it the other day that Mamdani was gonna finesse trump into a reverse mortgage and buying two of the same mixtape.

You did, I remember that!

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The fact that Mamdani knows how to talk to Trump is a sign of his intelligence and his way with words. We've also seen some foreign leaders who know exactly how to talk to Trump to get what they want.

I was convinced until this comment, the cosmic law of irony will not allow this bait to stand.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ah, that is how we shoehorn in "everything bad is Democrats' fault" into this conversation. You're an artist!

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago

This is where Zohran pulls off his mask and reveals the shambling corpse of DICK CHENEY.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Trump was expecting a poorly spoken non-white to match his biases, instead got Mamdani who is extremely well spoken.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Obama was too and that didn't stop him. Trump expects Mamdani to become a MAGA pickme.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

Not really.

It doesn't have to be deeper than Mamdani saying:

____ will make NYC love you

trump would (figuratively) pay any price for that, it's what he's wanted his entire life. The wealthy NYers will never accept him, so he can piss them off and get some kind of authentic goodwill for his hometown?

trump could absolutely be talked into that short term.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Fuck. I hope he doesn’t do a Fetterman. Afettered, if you’ll indulge me.

[–] Impound4017@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean, Fetterman had some questionable views even before the point that most acknowledged that he’d flipped, he simply got less coverage than Mamdani and had the benefit of running against Dr. Oz so a lot of it was missed/overlooked. I think it’s significantly less likely that Mamdani flips because, to my understanding, he’s been very consistent in his views for quite a while now, even from the time before he was in office.

That said, if Mamdani flipped I could see it doing significant damage to the left on the basis of perception alone, so it could be that I’m just praying the left won’t be… fettered, by another pretender giving progressive policy a wrongfully bad name.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He's not even in office yet and us on the left are already trying to purity test his actions.

Jesus Christ, let's judge Zohran & his team by their policy actions when they take office. Anything until then is just rampant speculation that'll only serve the far-right and the foreign interest and big-money interest astroturfing bots trying to divide the left again!

[–] Impound4017@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago

I don’t really know what I put there that qualifies as purity testing? If it’s the final paragraph, I should say that it was intended to be unserious; I just wanted an excuse to continue the ‘fetter’ bit.

As stated, I think the situation is very unlikely, to the point that it’s not worth seriously considering unless we have a demonstrable, compelling reason to believe that a flip is presently happening. My point was rather to say that Fetterman’s flip was less unexpected than it would initially seem given what information existed at the time, and if he’d gotten the kind of attention Mamdani did when he was running, it likely wouldn’t have been as surprising as it ended up being. Conversely, however, even after the intense scrutiny Mamdani has received from both the media and people on the left and right, it would be a genuine surprise to me if he was being anything other than truthful about his beliefs and intentions, and so the two aren’t really directly comparable. It is speculation, yes, but it’s not as if it’s entirely baseless, and it leads into the conclusion of ‘all we can do is wait and see. There’s not a reason to be worried at this time, but there are plenty of reasons to be hopeful.’

Plus (and to your point), even if Mamdani turned out to be less progressive or less effective than I’d hoped, so long as he’s this side of sane about the current fascist takeover, then I’d say we should count him as an ally, regardless of anything else mentioned.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I did not expect this retort. It’s quite a fettering I’ve experienced.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is Fetteral assault. I need an adult.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

You win. I give up. I’m all fettered out.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Obama wasn't.......uhhh......that great...........of a.......uggggghhh.........speaker.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Those "uhh"s are a competent person thinking through how each thing they say could be misinterpreted and changing the language on the fly. He knew anything he said that could even be taken slightly as offensive to the right would dominate the news cycle for the next week. Its just sad that trump and his supporters knows the same thing and simply doesn't give a shit about who he offends.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, but like, it made him, like, sounds like a, teenage, like, schoolgirl. I would, like, take that, like, excuse if it was only, like, during important, like, speeches, and stuff. But he, like, did it during, like, the most mundane, like, things he would, like, say.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago

Interesting that you had to change to a completely different type of dialogue in order to make it sound bad.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But he, like, did it during, like, the most mundane, like, things he would, like, say.

He got criticized for wearing a tan suit. There were no times that were mundane for him.

Yeah, but like, it made him, like, sounds like a, teenage, like, schoolgirl.

Except...he never said "like" like valley girl speak ever.

The opposite is trump, so I hope you're enjoying when the current president speaks instead of Obama.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

No, Trump is even worse, especially when you read what he's saying.

[–] olosta@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Trump probably doesn't want his NY real estate to lose value, so now he will say and do anything to keep the market up.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago

All Mamdani had to do was go in there and say both him and Trump are mavericks out to fix the system by breaking the dumb neoliberal rules and Trump would be all for it. You tell Trump you've got similar qualities that are good and he'll think you're hot shit for gassing him up.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

I bet it was like watching someone do magic for the chimps at the zoo.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I guess Mamdani gave Trump some gift and told him that his penis wasn't small.

Lord.. its was stupid all 4 times man... try a gain

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

"Trump says" type of headlines will be anything from one day to the next. Best to dismiss all of it.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

MAGA: he’s got dementia.

[–] DABDA@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 days ago

I hope Mamdani has adequate security because my first reaction to this is that it's an attempt at plausible deniability for when some "unfortunate accident" befalls him. The emphasis on there not being a difference in parties, and how much they're all rooting for him, could be parlayed into encouraging everyone to just accept a republican replacement since our goals are totally in alignment, but clearly the democrats just can't take care of their own people or the citizens they represent.

Any other president and administration I'd take the comments as either sincere or just friendly empty platitudes, but this group doesn't do anything seemingly human without ulterior motives.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Nothing Trump says is in earnest. He's incapable.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Brilliant fucking move by Mamdani and his people to call this meeting knowing that his general agent would fucking slay the fake shit that Trump pushes non-stop from his lackeys.

Master chess move.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 5 days ago

General agent?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 5 days ago

Hmmm... Maybe Trump has wisened up slightly and knows that we know that whatever he endorses is dogshit and this is some grade school level reverse psychology...? 🤔