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Title says it. Apparently lemmy devs are not concerned with such worldly matters as privacy, or respecting international privacy laws.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

That's a pretty uncharitable interpretation, especially considering Lemmy is developed in and funded in part by the EU, and the "staying online forever" thing is a consequence of Federation (and one they're working on remedying).

If you were worried about this sort of thing, perhaps you should have done your research about the platform before making an account so you could bitch about it here. You definitely don't sound like the voice of reason when you couldn't be arsed to figure this out before you made an account.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

So you can't make an account on this platform if you don't agree with how it operates? By that logic no criticism of the platform by its users is possible, which is a great way to ensure it never gets better.

Edit: Let me make this clearer:

Saying in effect "yet you participate in lemmy" to dismiss the OP's concerns is ridiculous. If this logic were taken to its endpoint, there would be no valid criticism of anything lemmy ever did.

Maybe that's your goal, but I would rather not blindly defend lemmy because I like it. I'd rather make it better, and that starts with criticism.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

It took this person 20 days to post this. They didn't create their account to post it the same day or even the next day, ergo, they figured it out after the fact.

If they really had an issue with stuff like this, why pray-tel weren't they already doing their due diligence to ensure that the service they were signing up for didn't violate the GDPR in ways they didn't like? That seems like a gross oversight by someone clearly incensed by it.

(Also, it continues to be questionable whether it's actually breaking GDPR rules, and even in that regard, it would be individual server admins responsible for enforcing GDPR compliance.)

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[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I mean, yes?

If you do not agree to the terms of a service, do not use the service. This is the case for essentially every system ever. You can go complain about it on Reddit or something if you like.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Okay, since you clearly carefully read and completely agree and support eveything in the Lemmy TOS, please tell me where it says it will keep your comments forever.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I'm not saying that the terms can't be more transparent, because they absolutely can be.

But if you have become aware of this practice and you continue to participate, you have de facto agreed to it. You can of course agree to the terms and continue to criticize them, but you don't get to sign up for a soccer game and then claim that the rules against using your hands don't actually apply to you. If you don't want to face the consequences of how distributed services like this fundamentally work, don't use them.

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[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

It's been a problem for a while. Considering major social media companies have already gotten massive fines from the EU for violating the GDPR, maybe the lemmy devs will put more effort in setting up a deletion system once the EU sends them a fine for breaking the law?

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[–] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Oh no, that's not even the half of it. The admin for your instance has access to literally anything on their server, including passwords afaik. If you want privacy, this ain't it chief.

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[–] jeremias@social.jears.at 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well it is pretty much impossible to delete anything on any federated service. It is technically just not possible without opening a whole other world of problems.

I always like to think of the fediverse in some way like emails. If you send an email, the moment it leaves your mail providers server it is pretty much impossible to stop.

Basically think before you post. The internet never forgets, the fediverse especially so.

[–] XYZinferno@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 points 2 years ago

To my knowledge, these privacy laws prevent corporations from holding onto your data after you have requested to delete it. Lemmy is not a corporation, and there is no single entity that holds onto all of your data. That's just a tradeoff of being decentralized.

[–] lily33@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't know where this myth came from, but you don't have a right to erase your public posts from there internet under GDPR. See, for example, https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/32361/does-a-user-have-the-right-to-request-their-forum-posts-deleted

If anything, you might have such rights under copyright law, if your posts cover the threshold for copyright. In that case, you can ask server admins to delete them, and they will have to comply. But the request has to reach them (if they're defederated, the delete button won't teach them, and you'll have to contact them separately).

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